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Beitzah 33a

ביצה ל״ג ע״א

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Topic

מוקצה and fire on יום טוב: using wood for other jobs, firebrands, gathering kindling, and producing new fire

Overview

This amud first finishes a list of household items that follow one rule on יום טוב: hold the top piece first, then put the support underneath. The גמרא then quotes the משנה that one may not prop a pot with a piece of firewood. It corrects the wording so that a door is also something that may not be propped with wood. A ברייתא explains that wood is meant only for burning, so other uses are מוקצה, while רבי שמעון permits. The ברייתא also forbids leading an animal with a stick. The גמרא explains that the reason is not מוקצה but that it looks like a weekday trip to market. רב נחמן and רב ששת argue about roasting with a reed, and the גמרא reports the argument in two versions. The הלכה is that a dry reed is permitted and a wet reed is forbidden. רבא forbids taking a firebrand from the woodshed and burning a broken one, and the גמרא shows he holds of מוקצה even though he gave duck innards to his cat. A new משנה follows. It records an argument over gathering kindling from the courtyard, and it forbids producing new fire or heating tiles white-hot to roast on. The גמרא's discussion begins with רב יהודה.

Opening lines

וְכֵן בֵּיעֲתָא, וְכֵן קְדֵרָה,

And similarly eggs, and similarly a pot,

וְכֵן פּוּרְיָא, וְכֵן חָבִיתָא.

and similarly a bed, and similarly barrels.

וְאֵין סוֹמְכִין אֶת הַקְּדֵרָה בַּבְּקַעַת,

And one may not prop a pot with a piece of wood,

וְכֵן בַּדֶּלֶת.

and similarly with a door.

The steps (21)

  1. StatementMore cases that follow the same rule
  2. StatementThe משנה: do not prop a pot with wood
  3. ChallengeWho props a pot with a door?
  4. ResolutionFixing the wording: the door is what gets propped
  5. StatementThe reason: wood is only for burning
  6. StatementLeading an animal with a stick
  7. QuestionDoes the son follow his father on מוקצה?
  8. RejectionNo, it looks like going to the market
  9. StatementRoasting with a reed: רב נחמן vs. רב ששת
  10. StatementWet reed: everyone forbids; the argument is about dry
  11. Statementרב נחמן's reason: wood is only for burning
  12. Statementרב ששת's reason: roasting is roasting
  13. StatementA second version of the argument: dry is fine, wet is disputed
  14. StatementThe reasons in the second version: not fit to burn versus fit for a big fire
  15. ConclusionThe final ruling: dry permitted, wet forbidden
  16. Statementרבא's teaching about a firebrand
  17. ChallengeDoes רבא hold of מוקצה? He gave duck innards to a cat
  18. ResolutionThe innards were already in mind the day before
  19. StatementNew משנה: taking a splinter and gathering kindling
  20. StatementNo producing new fire and no whitening tiles on יום טוב
  21. StatementThe גמרא opens with a statement from רב יהודה