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Bechoros 27b

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Bekhorot 27b

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Topic

Immersing to eat תרומת חוצה לארץ, and how the year and eating time of a בכור are learned

Overview

The amud opens with רב נחמן's response to the woman's open question from the end of 27a, whether a טמא מת may immerse and eat תרומת חוצה לארץ. He asks how immersion could help when there is no הזאה with the ashes of the פרה אדומה. רמי בר חמא suggests waiting for the elder, רב עמרם. When רב עמרם arrives, he reports that רב allowed a טמא מת to immerse and eat תרומת חוצה לארץ. The גמרא rules that the הלכה does not follow this. It also rejects רב ששת's similar ruling about a טמא שרץ. Then the גמרא returns to the משנה that a בכור is eaten שנה בשנה. From the משנה's wording it shows that the year is counted from the animal's birth, and רב learns this from the words 'שנה בשנה'. דבי רב read the same words as teaching that a בכור is eaten for two days and one night. The גמרא then shows where each side learns the other rule: דבי רב learn the year from other קדשים ('כבש בן שנתו'), and רב learns the two days and one night from a הקש to the חזה ושוק of שלמים.

Opening lines

וְכִי הַזָּאָה יֵשׁ לָנוּ?

But do we have sprinkling?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָמֵי בַּר חָמָא:

Rami bar Chama said to him:

לָא לֵיחוּשׁ לֵיהּ לְסָבָא.

Shouldn't he be concerned for the old man?

אַדְּהָכִי אֲתָא רַב עַמְרָם,

Meanwhile, Rav Amram came.

The steps (16)

  1. ChallengeHow can immersion help without sprinkling?
  2. Statementרמי בר חמא suggests waiting for the elder
  3. Responseרב עמרם reports רב's ruling
  4. ConclusionThe halacha does not follow this ruling
  5. StatementA similar ruling about one impure from a creeping animal
  6. StatementQuoting the משנה about the firstborn
  7. StatementThe year is counted from the animal's birth
  8. QuestionWhat is the source?
  9. Responseרב derives it from 'year in a year'
  10. StatementThe school of רב reads 'year by year' differently
  11. QuestionWhere does the school of רב learn the counting of the year?
  12. ResponseThey learn it from other sacrifices
  13. QuestionWhere do we learn this about sacrifices themselves?
  14. Response'A lamb in its year' means its own year
  15. QuestionWhere does רב learn two days and one night?
  16. Responseרב learns it from the comparison to breast and thigh