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Berachos 44b

ברכות מ״ד ע״ב

Berakhot 44b

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Topic

Which foods need a ברכה אחרונה, followed by teachings on eggs and on the health effects of foods

Overview

The גמרא brings three views on which foods need a ברכה אחרונה: רב יצחק בר אבדימי excludes vegetables, רבי יצחק excludes only water, and רב פפא excludes nothing. A משנה says some things need a ברכה before but not after, and for רב פפא this refers to מצוות, or, for everyone, to fragrances. Since eggs were mentioned, the גמרא praises how nourishing eggs are, depending on how they are cooked. It explains that רבי עקיבא's nourishing boiled vegetable is a cabbage stalk. Then a ברייתא lists the health effects of foods, and the גמרא goes through it line by line: spleen and leeks, raw vegetables, small animals, the neck, cabbage and beets, and turnip. Along the way come רבי יצחק's two rules about vegetables before four hours, illustrated by a story with מר זוטרא, and a warning about small salted fish. Finally the גמרא returns to the משנה about drinking water לצמאו. רב אידי בר אבין's answer continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

אָמַר רַב יִצְחָק בַּר אַבְדִּימִי מִשּׁוּם רַבֵּינוּ:

Rav Yitzchak bar Avdimi said in the name of our teacher:

עַל הַבֵּיעָא וְעַל מִינֵי קוּפְרָא,

Over the egg and over kinds of meat,

בַּתְּחִלָּה מְבָרֵךְ ״שֶׁהַכֹּל״,

at the beginning one says 'Shehakol',

וּלְבַסּוֹף ״בּוֹרֵא נְפָשׁוֹת רַבּוֹת וְכוּ׳״.

and at the end, 'Who creates many forms of life, etc.'

The steps (47)

  1. StatementEggs and meat: שהכל before, בורא נפשות after, but no blessing after vegetables
  2. Statementרבי יצחק: even vegetables need a blessing after, but not water
  3. Statementרב פפא: even water needs a blessing after
  4. StatementHow two sages acted, with a memory aid
  5. Statementרב אשי tries to satisfy all opinions
  6. ChallengeA source says some foods need no blessing after, which is a problem for רב פפא
  7. ResolutionThe rule refers to מצוות
  8. ChallengeBut in ארץ ישראל they bless after removing תפילין
  9. ResolutionThe rule refers to fragrances
  10. StatementAn egg is better than an equal amount of other food
  11. Statementרבין: a soft-cooked egg beats six measures of flour
  12. Statementרב דימי: the value depends on how the egg is cooked
  13. StatementBack to the משנה: רבי עקיבא on boiled vegetables
  14. ChallengeCan a boiled vegetable really be a main food?
  15. Resolutionרב אשי: it means a cabbage stalk
  16. StatementA ברייתא on foods that help and harm the body
  17. QuestionHow can one eat spleen without harm?
  18. ResponseChew the spleen and spit it out
  19. QuestionHow can one eat leeks without harm?
  20. ResponseBoil the leeks and swallow them
  21. StatementRaw vegetables cause paleness only after bloodletting
  22. StatementDo not talk with someone who ate vegetables early in the day
  23. QuestionWhy is it forbidden to talk with him?
  24. ResponseBecause of the smell
  25. StatementEating raw vegetables early in the day is forbidden
  26. StatementThree sages are served raw vegetables early in the day
  27. ChallengeHis colleagues challenge his reason for not eating
  28. Resolutionמר זוטרא follows the other rule of רבי יצחק
  29. StatementSmall animals stunt growth, even a goat worth a זוז
  30. StatementThe rule applies only before the animal reaches a quarter of its size
  31. StatementAny whole creature restores the soul, even tiny reed fish
  32. StatementThe part close to the soul is the neck
  33. Statementרבא asks his servant for meat from the neck
  34. StatementCabbage for food, beets for healing
  35. ChallengeA ברייתא lists cabbage as a real cure
  36. ResolutionRead it as 'cabbage is even for food'
  37. StatementWoe to the house where turnip passes through
  38. ChallengeBut רבא told his servant to always buy turnip
  39. ResolutionTurnip is harmful only without meat or without wine
  40. Statementרב, שמואל, and רבי יוחנן on what makes turnip harmful
  41. Questionרבא asks רב פפא how he breaks the turnip's harm
  42. Responseרב פפא: we break it with lots of wood
  43. StatementA small salted fish can kill on certain days
  44. StatementThe danger applies only if the fish was not roasted well
  45. StatementEven poorly roasted fish is safe if followed by beer
  46. QuestionWhat does 'for his thirst' come to exclude?
  47. Responseרב אידי בר אבין begins: it excludes a certain person