Chagigah 25b
חגיגה כ״ה ע״ב
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Topic
Trusting an עם הארץ on purity: inheritance, a check made for the פסח, flasks, and potters near מודיעים
Overview
The amud opens with a משנה about a חבר and an עם הארץ who inherit from their father. They may split same-kind items by location, but they may not swap different kinds, and a ברייתא adds that the חבר burns wet produce and keeps dry. The גמרא then discusses whether a check of a בית הפרס made for the קרבן פסח also allows eating תרומה. עולא says yes and רבה בר עולא says no, and an old man supports עולא from our משנה about a רביעית of קודש. Next, a ברייתא says an עם הארץ is not believed about flasks, and the גמרא explains which flasks it means. It also reads the משנה's 'mixed jugs' as טבל kept pure for נסכים. אביי learns from the 'seventy days before the winepress' that a tenant farmer must prepare flasks then. A new משנה rules that potters inside מודיעים are believed about clay vessels, and a ברייתא explains when מודיעים itself counts as inside or outside. That discussion continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
חָבֵר וְעַם הָאָרֶץ
A חבר and an עם הארץ
שֶׁיָּרְשׁוּ אֶת אֲבִיהֶם עַם הָאָרֶץ,
who inherited from their father, who was an עם הארץ,
יָכוֹל לוֹמַר לוֹ:
the חבר can say to him:
טוֹל אַתָּה חִטִּין שֶׁבְּמָקוֹם פְּלוֹנִי,
You take the wheat that is in such-and-such a place,
The steps (32)
- StatementDividing wheat by location
- StatementDividing wine by location
- StatementNo swapping between different kinds
- StatementThe חבר burns the wet and keeps the dry
- ProofWhy not keep the wet produce until the next winepress season?
- RejectionThe case is about something with no winepress
- ChallengeThen let him keep it until the רגל
- ResolutionIt would spoil before the רגל
- StatementQuoting the משנה: he is believed about a רביעית of קודש
- StatementA משנה elsewhere: checking for the פסח but not for תרומה
- QuestionWhat does 'checking' mean?
- Responseשמואל: blowing on the בית הפרס while walking
- Responseעולא: a trodden בית הפרס is pure for the פסח
- StatementFor eating תרומה the rule stayed in force
- QuestionDoes a check made for the פסח also allow תרומה?
- Responseעולא: He may eat תרומה
- Responseרבה בר עולא: He may not eat תרומה
- ProofAn old man supports עולא from our משנה
- StatementA ברייתא: Not believed about flasks or תרומה
- QuestionWhich flasks does the ברייתא mean?
- ChallengeNot flasks of קודש, since he is believed on the קודש
- ChallengeFlasks of תרומה would be too obvious
- ResolutionThe ברייתא means empty קודש flasks, and full תרומה flasks at winepress time
- ChallengeOur משנה believes him about jugs mixed with תרומה
- ResolutionThe school of רבי חייא: the jugs are mixed with קודש
- ChallengeIs the word דימוע ever used for קודש?
- ResolutionThe school of רבי אלעאי: טבל kept pure for נסכים
- Statementאביי: a tenant farmer must prepare flasks seventy days before the winepress
- StatementPotters inside מודיעים are believed about clay pots
- StatementIt depends on where the potter is right now
- StatementA ברייתא: מודיעים itself can count as inside or outside
- StatementWhen מודיעים counts as inside