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Chagigah 6a

חגיגה ו׳ ע״א

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Topic

A child's obligation in ראייה, and the debate between בית שמאי and בית הלל over the minimum values of the ראייה and חגיגה offerings

Overview

The גמרא asks how a small child even reached ירושלים, and אביי explains that his mother brought him, since she comes anyway for the מצוה of שמחה. רבי tries to prove בית הלל's age rule from חנה, who kept שמואל home until he was weaned. His father rejects the proof: חנה stayed home only to protect a delicate child. רבי שמעון then asks about a lame or blind child who might heal. אביי rules that a child is trained only where an adult in the same condition would be obligated. The גמרא then turns to the minimum value of the ראייה and חגיגה offerings, where בית שמאי and בית הלל each give two reasons and answer each other's arguments. The debate comes down to whether the עולות brought at סיני were עולות ראייה or the עולת תמיד. אביי lists other תנאים on each side, and the גמרא begins tracing their sources, a discussion that continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

עַד הָכָא, מַאן אַתְיֵיהּ?

Up to here, who brought him?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי:

Abaye said to him:

עַד הָכָא דְּמִיחַיְּיבָא אִימֵּיהּ בְּשִׂמְחָה —

Up to here, since his mother is obligated in rejoicing,

אַיְיתִיתֵיהּ אִימֵּיהּ.

his mother brought him.

The steps (22)

  1. QuestionWho brought the child to Jerusalem?
  2. ResponseHis mother brought him; from Jerusalem on, it depends on the child
  3. Proofרבי's proof from חנה and שמואל
  4. RejectionHis father rejects the proof: חנה stayed home to protect a delicate child
  5. Questionרבי שמעון asks about a lame or blind child
  6. QuestionWhat case is the question about?
  7. ResponseThe question is about a child who may heal
  8. Responseאביי's rule for training children
  9. StatementQuoting the משנה on the value of the offering
  10. Statementבית שמאי's view and their two reasons
  11. Statementבית הלל's view and their two reasons
  12. QuestionWhy don't בית הלל accept בית שמאי's reasons?
  13. ResponseThe חגיגה is better because it is eaten twice
  14. ResponseLearn a private offering from a private offering
  15. QuestionWhy don't בית שמאי accept בית הלל's reasons?
  16. ResponseThe ראייה also existed before סיני
  17. Responseבית שמאי reject learning from the נשיאים
  18. ChallengeThe same פסוק mentions עולות before מתן תורה
  19. ResolutionThe עולות at סיני were the עולת תמיד
  20. Statementאביי lists who holds each view
  21. StatementThe source for בית שמאי was already given
  22. ProofOpening the ברייתא that is the source for רבי ישמעאל