Chullin 103b

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Topic

Measuring a כזית for אבר מן החי and other forbidden foods: throat or stomach. The close of גיד הנשה and the opening משנה of כל הבשר

Overview

The amud first finishes a point from the previous page: the איסור of טריפה can take effect on חלב, which has a permitted form, but not on an אבר מן החי, which never does. Next comes a case of a כזית-sized אבר מן החי split in two and eaten. רב דימי and רבין report differently what רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש said. Everyone agrees that splitting it outside the mouth makes him פטור. When it is split inside the mouth, רבי יוחנן says חייב because his throat enjoyed a כזית, and in רבין's version ריש לקיש says פטור because a full כזית must reach the stomach. רבי אלעזר adds that he is חייב even if the limb was split outside the mouth. The same throat-versus-stomach argument explains their מחלוקת about food on the palate, as רב פפא clarifies. רבי יוחנן also rules that someone who ate half a זית, vomited it, and ate another half is liable. The story of רבי אלעזר reminding רבי אסי shows that the same idea applies when someone eats the same vomited half again. The פרק of גיד הנשה then ends, and פרק כל הבשר opens with a משנה forbidding all meat with milk, except fish and grasshoppers.

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The steps (21)

1. ConclusionA limb with no permitted form does not get the טריפה prohibition
2. Questionריש לקיש asks about a limb split outside the mouth
3. Responseרבי יוחנן: split outside means פטור
4. Questionריש לקיש asks about a limb split inside the mouth
5. Responseרבי יוחנן: split inside means חייב
6. Statementרבין's version: split inside is a מחלוקת
7. StatementThe reasons behind each side's ruling
8. ChallengeHow could anyone ever be liable according to ריש לקיש?
9. Resolutionרב כהנא: a small bone swallowed whole
10. Statementרבי אלעזר: even splitting outside makes him liable
11. StatementDoes food stuck between the teeth count toward the כזית?
12. Statementרב פפא narrows the argument to food on the palate
13. Statementרבי יוחנן: two half-olives with vomiting in between
14. Questionרבי אלעזר asks about re-eating the vomited half-olive
15. QuestionWhat is the question? Not about digestion
16. ResponseThe real question: throat or stomach
17. ChallengeWhy not answer it from רבי אסי's report?
18. Resolutionרבי אסי forgot, and רבי אלעזר came to remind him
19. Proofרבי אסי is silent, and רבי אלעזר reminds him directly
20. ConclusionHadran — Closing פרק גיד הנשה
21. StatementOpening משנה: all meat is forbidden with milk, except fish and grasshoppers