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Chullin 133b

חולין קל״ג ע״ב

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Topic

Partnerships with a גוי or כהן and the gifts of זרוע, לחיים וקבה: marking, partial partnerships, and following the obligation

Overview

An animal owned in partnership with a גוי or a כהן is exempt from the gifts of זרוע, לחיים and קבה, but in some cases the Jewish partner must mark the animal so onlookers do not think he is skipping the gifts. The גמרא explains why a גוי partner needs no mark while a כהן partner does: people would not assume a Jew trusts a גוי with his money box, and a גוי partner openly argues about prices, while a modest כהן would not. Next, the גמרא asks why פסולי המוקדשין need no mark, since they are sold like ordinary meat. רב אדא בר אהבה answers that the ruling is about the kind sold only from home. רב הונא and חייא בר רב then argue about a partner in only one part of the animal. רב הונא says this exempts only that part's gift, and חייא בר רב is refuted from ברייתות. רב חסדא explains what misled him: a ברייתא listing the 24 מתנות כהונה counts זרוע, לחיים and קבה as one item, but that is only because they are similar. The גמרא then rules that when a ישראל owns only the head, we follow the part that carries the obligation (בתר חיובא אזלינן). Finally it quotes the משנה's case of a כהן who sells an animal 'except for the gifts.'

Opening lines

הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן –

Here, with what are we dealing?

דְּיָתֵיב גּוֹי אַמְּסַחְתָּא.

Where the gentile sits in the butcher shop.

דִּכְוָתַהּ גַּבֵּי כֹהֵן,

The corresponding case regarding a priest,

דְּיָתֵיב אַמְּסַחְתָּא,

where he sits in the butcher shop,

The steps (33)

  1. ResolutionThe gentile is sitting in the butcher shop
  2. ChallengeThen the priest also sits in the shop, so why mark?
  3. ResolutionPeople will think the priest is buying meat
  4. ChallengeThe same could be said of the gentile
  5. ResolutionThe gentile sits by the money box
  6. ChallengeThen the priest also sits by the money box, so why mark?
  7. ResolutionPeople will think the butcher trusts the priest
  8. ChallengeThe same could be said of the gentile
  9. ResolutionPeople do not trust a gentile with money
  10. ResolutionA typical gentile partner loudly argues about prices
  11. StatementQuoting the ruling that disqualified sacrificial animals need no mark
  12. ChallengeBut disqualified sacrificial animals are sold just like regular meat
  13. ResolutionThe ruling is about the kind sold only from home
  14. StatementA partner in one part is exempt only from that part's gift
  15. StatementA partner in any one part exempts all the gifts
  16. ChallengeA ברייתא about owning a tiny share of one part
  17. ChallengeReading the ברייתא as exempting only the matching gift
  18. ResolutionNo, it means exempt from all the gifts
  19. RejectionThen the ברייתא should have said so
  20. ChallengeA second ברייתא clearly limits the exemption to the jaw
  21. Conclusionחייא בר רב is refuted
  22. Statementרב חסדא explains what misled חייא בר רב
  23. StatementThe three groups, and the ten gifts eaten in the Temple
  24. StatementThe four gifts eaten in Jerusalem
  25. StatementThe ten gifts given anywhere in the land
  26. StatementWhat חייא בר רב thought
  27. RejectionCounting as one does not make them one
  28. ConclusionThey are grouped because they are similar
  29. QuestionHead to the ישראל, the rest to the כהן
  30. ProofA ברייתא about ראשית הגז
  31. ProofThe animal gifts are stricter than wool
  32. ConclusionWe follow the obligation
  33. StatementQuoting the משנה: a sale 'except for the gifts'