Chullin 13b

חולין י״ג ע״ב

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Topic

Whether non-Jews have the status of מינין (for שחיטה and קרבנות), the impurity of a נכרי's slaughtered animal, and slaughtering at night or by a blind person

Overview

The amud opens with the last line of a ברייתא about a מין (a committed heretic): one opinion says even his sons are ממזרים. The תנא קמא disagrees, because he holds that a מין still guards his wife. The גמרא then asks why a נכרי's שחיטה is only נבלה. Shouldn't we worry he is a מין, whose שחיטה is forbidden even for benefit? The answer is that most non-Jews are not מינין, since they only follow their ancestors' customs, as רבי יוחנן taught. A second report of רב נחמן's rule 'there are no מינין among the nations' is explained as being about קרבנות: we accept offerings from any non-Jew, based on 'מכם' and 'איש איש.' The גמרא next explains why the משנה says the animal makes impure through carrying, giving two versions of רבא that compare it to תקרובת עבודה זרה, along with רבי יהודה בן בתירא's source. Finally, a new משנה validates שחיטה done at night or by a blind person. The גמרא settles that at night it is allowed from the start only with a torch.

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The steps (23)

1. StatementEnd of the list: a heretic's sons are ממזרים
2. QuestionWhy didn't the first opinion say this?
3. ResponseA heretic does not let his wife go astray
4. ChallengeShouldn't we worry that any non-Jew is a heretic?
5. ResolutionThere are no heretics among the nations
6. ChallengeBut we see such heretics exist!
7. ResolutionMost of the nations are not heretics
8. StatementNon-Jews outside ארץ ישראל only follow their ancestors' customs
9. StatementAnother report: no heretics among the nations
10. QuestionWhat is the rule for? Not for slaughter
11. ChallengeNot for lowering heretics into a pit either
12. ResponseThe answer: accepting קרבנות from non-Jews
13. ChallengeMaybe no קרבנות from non-Jews at all
14. ResolutionProof that non-Jews may bring offerings
15. ChallengeWhy does the משנה need to say it makes impure through carrying?
16. Resolutionרבא: there is a stricter case, idol offerings
17. ResolutionA second version of רבא's answer
18. Proofרבי יהודה בן בתירא's source for tent impurity
19. StatementNew משנה: slaughtering at night or by a blind person
20. StatementReading the משנה: valid only after the fact
21. ChallengeA ברייתא allows slaughtering at night from the start
22. ResolutionThe ברייתא is talking about a case with a torch
23. ProofThe wording of both sources supports רב פפא