Chullin 48a

חולין מ״ח ע״א

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Topic

Lung problems in an animal (טריפות): a lung stuck to the chest wall, holes sealed by the wall, and cysts on the lung

Overview

The amud finishes a list of animal conditions. An animal whose womb was removed is kosher. A wormy liver was permitted by the court in יבנה on the third visit of the people of עסיא. The גמרא then turns to a lung stuck to the chest wall. רב נחמן worries only if growths appear, while אבימי worries in both cases. רבא explains how to check such a lung with a thin knife. There are two traditions about רב נחמיה's lukewarm-water check, and רב אשי objects to applying it to two lobes stuck together. רב נחמן's rule that the chest wall can seal a hole in the lung is defended three times: by limiting it to the lung's natural place, by rejecting a proof from a ברייתא, and by explaining why the משנה never lists a pierced chest wall. Finally, שמואל permits a lung with cysts, but רבי ירמיה is strict like רבי יוחנן, and רבא begins a market story about רב נחמן that continues on the next amud.

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The steps (31)

1. StatementAn animal whose womb was removed is kosher
2. StatementThe wormy liver and the three trips to Yavne
3. Statementרב נחמן: a lung stuck to the chest wall
4. Statementאבימי: worry in both cases
5. QuestionHow do we check it?
6. Responseרבא's method: separate with a thin knife
7. Statementרב נחמיה checked in lukewarm water
8. Statementמר זוטרא: we attach this story to a different case
9. Statementרבא: two lobes stuck together cannot be checked
10. StatementEven so, רב נחמיה checked in lukewarm water
11. Challengeרב אשי: two stuck lobes cannot be blamed on anything else
12. ChallengeDid רב נחמן really say that? He said the wall can seal a hole
13. ResolutionIt depends on whether the lung touches the wall in its natural place
14. QuestionWhere is the lung's natural place against the wall?
15. ResponseIt is where the lobes are cut apart
16. StatementBack to רב נחמן's rule itself
17. Statementרבינא: only when the lung is tangled in the flesh
18. Challengeרב יוסף: then even when tangled it should be a טריפה
19. ProofProof from a ברייתא that only one kind of seal makes something fit again
20. RejectionThe word 'this' excludes a weak skin over a lung wound
21. ChallengeThen the משנה should list a hole in the chest wall
22. ResolutionThe same question would apply to a gallbladder sealed by the liver
23. ResolutionThe משנה only lists organs that cause the טריפה themselves
24. Questionרבה בר בר חנה asks about a lung with cysts
25. Responseשמואל rules the animal kosher
26. ChallengeThe students doubt it because of רב מתנא's rule
27. Resolutionרב מתנא's rule was about the kidney
28. StatementA walk through the butchers' market
29. QuestionA hint asking whether the meat may be eaten
30. Responseרבי ירמיה follows רבי יוחנן's own strictness
31. Statementרבא begins a story about רב נחמן in the market