Eruvin 29a
עירובין כ״ט ע״א
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Topic
Which foods and amounts are valid for an עירוב: beets, apples, wine, vinegar, and onions.
Overview
The amud opens by finishing the discussion of raw beets. In one version, raw beets are valid for an עירוב and only half-cooked beets are dangerous. In another version, רב המנונא forbids raw beets because רב חסדא said they kill, and the גמרא explains that he too means half-cooked beets. רב חסדא then praises well-cooked beets, and אביי adds that they must be fully boiled. Next, רבא invites questions like בן עזאי, and a scholar asks how many apples an עירוב needs. The גמרא proves from the משנה of כל האוכלין מצטרפין that apples are valid, and רב נחמן rules that a קב is needed. A challenge from a ברייתא that lists five peaches is answered, and רב יוסף shows that רב's 'and the same for עירוב' belongs to the משנה about gifts to the poor. This is confirmed by רב's rule of two רביעיות of wine. The גמרא then discusses combining foods, cooked wine, vinegar, and onions: onion bulbs are valid, but harmful onion leaves are not. The amud ends in the middle of a further limit on the danger of onion leaves, which continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
הָהוּא, בִּבְשִׁיל וְלָא בְּשִׁיל.
That is referring to one that is cooked and not cooked (half-cooked).
אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי,
There are those who say:
אָמַר רַב הַמְנוּנָא:
Rav Hamnuna said:
אֵין מְעָרְבִין בִּתְרָדִין חַיִּין,
One may not make an eiruv with raw beets,
The steps (35)
- ResolutionThe deadly beet is a half-cooked one
- StatementSecond version: רב המנונא forbids raw beets
- ChallengeBut people eat raw beets and live
- ResolutionAgain: the danger is a half-cooked beet
- StatementCooked beets are healthy
- Statementאביי: only when fully boiled
- Statementרבא invites questions like בן עזאי
- QuestionHow many apples for an עירוב?
- Responseרבא asks back: can apples be used at all?
- ChallengeA משנה seems to prove apples can be used for an עירוב
- QuestionWhat exactly is the proof from the משנה?
- RejectionThe word 'all' alone cannot prove it
- ResponseThe real proof: the link between עירוב and food impurity
- QuestionBack to the question: how many apples?
- Responseרב נחמן: a קב of apples
- ChallengeChallenge from the list of minimum gifts to the poor
- ResolutionPeaches are important, apples are not
- Statementרב יוסף says רב's statement was attached to the wrong source
- ProofThe משנה רב was really talking about
- QuestionWhy is the משנה a better fit than the ברייתא?
- RejectionSpices are not the reason, since wheat and barley are not ready to eat either
- ResponseThe wine amount shows רב was speaking about the משנה
- ConclusionConclusion: רב's comment belongs to the משנה
- Statementרב יוסף thinks each meal must be one kind of food
- Rejectionרבה: foods combine in any proportion
- StatementReturning to רב's rule about wine
- ChallengeA ברייתא suggests much less wine is enough
- ResolutionThe ברייתא speaks about cooked wine
- StatementHow much vinegar is needed for an eruv
- StatementA second version of רב's vinegar measurement
- StatementHow many olives and onions are needed for an eruv
- ChallengeA story where רבי מאיר rejected an onion eruv
- ResolutionOnion leaves versus onion bulbs
- ProofProof that onion leaves are dangerous
- StatementStarting to limit the danger of onion leaves