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Gittin 79b

גיטין ע״ט ע״ב

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Topic

Where a thrown גט takes effect (roofs, courtyards, baskets), using a גט ישן, and the penalties for a wrongly dated גט

Overview

This amud opens by finishing a list of points about roofs. On שבת, שמואל says each roof is its own separate area. For a גט, though, a neighboring roof of the husband still works, because a husband does not mind her using it. אביי then rules on a case where her courtyard sits inside his, and his walls are taller than hers. In that case a thrown גט counts as hers once it drops below his walls. Baskets work differently: the גט must actually land in her basket, and this works only if his outer basket has no bottom. A new משנה follows. בית שמאי and בית הלל argue about a גט ישן, and the גמרא explains that the argument is about a גזרה that people might think her divorce came before her son. Another משנה lists improper ways to date or place a גט. If she remarried using such a גט, she must leave both husbands, loses her money rights, and faces other penalties as well.

Opening lines

וְהָא דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל:

And that which Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

לֹא יַעֲמוֹד אָדָם בְּגַג זֶה

A person should not stand on this roof

וְיִקְלוֹט מֵי גְשָׁמִים

and catch rainwater

מִגַּגּוֹ שֶׁל חֲבֵירוֹ,

from the roof of his fellow,

The steps (23)

  1. Statementשמואל's rule: each roof is a separate area
  2. ConclusionThat rule is only for שבת, not for a גט
  3. Statementאביי's case of an inner courtyard inside an outer one
  4. QuestionAsking for the reason
  5. ResponseThe outer walls protect the inner courtyard too
  6. StatementBaskets work differently from courtyards
  7. QuestionWhy is the basket case different?
  8. ResponseThe גט has not landed yet
  9. ChallengeEven landing should not help
  10. ResolutionThe outer basket has no bottom
  11. StatementThe משנה: Divorcing with an old גט
  12. QuestionWhat is the root of their dispute?
  13. ResponseThe dispute is about a protective decree
  14. StatementIf she already remarried, she stays married
  15. StatementA second version: she may remarry even from the start
  16. StatementNew משנה: a גט dated in an improper way
  17. StatementWrong place written, and she must leave both husbands
  18. StatementShe loses her money rights from both husbands
  19. StatementShe must return whatever she took
  20. StatementA child from either husband is a ממזר
  21. StatementNeither husband may become impure for her burial
  22. StatementNeither husband gets a husband's usual rights
  23. StatementA בת ישראל becomes disqualified from marrying a כהן