Gittin 83a

גיטין פ״ג ע״א

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Topic

The end of the questions about partly cancelling an 'except' restriction, and the four זקנים's arguments against רבי אליעזר's partial גט and their refutations

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a set of questions about a husband who wrote 'except ראובן and שמעון' in a גט and then took back only part of it. The questions about naming only one of them, or saying 'also to שמעון', end with תיקו. Next comes a ברייתא: after רבי אליעזר died, four זקנים came to argue against his view that a גט forbidding the woman to one man is valid. רבי טרפון points to blocked יבום, רבי יוסי הגלילי says nothing is forbidden to one man and permitted to another, רבי אלעזר בן עזריה reads כריתות as a full cutting-off, and רבי עקיבא raises the risk of ממזרים and a קל וחומר about a כהן. רבי יהושע objects that one does not refute a lion after his death. רבא rules that every argument except רבי אלעזר בן עזריה's has a weak point, and a ברייתא quoting רבי יוסי agrees. The גמרא then goes through the arguments one by one, names the weak point in each, and works out whether each was aimed at a גט worded 'except' (חוץ) or 'on condition' (על מנת). The amud ends in the middle of this check for רבי עקיבא's כהן argument, which continues on the next amud.

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The steps (42)

1. QuestionWhat if he later permits only ראובן?
2. QuestionWhat if he later permits only שמעון?
3. Questionרב אשי asks about 'also to שמעון'
4. ConclusionThe question stays unanswered
5. StatementFour זקנים come to answer רבי אליעזר
6. Challengeרבי טרפון: The condition could block a Torah מצוה
7. Challengeרבי יוסי הגלילי: Nothing is forbidden to one man and permitted to another
8. Challengeרבי אלעזר בן עזריה: A גט must fully cut the bond
9. Challengeרבי עקיבא: The condition could later cancel the גט and make children ממזרים
10. Challengeרבי עקיבא's second argument: the widow and the כהן
11. ChallengeThe קל וחומר: the married status should spread to everyone
12. Rejectionרבי יהושע: don't refute a lion after his death
13. Conclusionרבא: only רבי אלעזר בן עזריה's argument holds up
14. ProofA ברייתא supports רבא: רבי יוסי prefers רבי אלעזר בן עזריה
15. Statementרבי טרפון's argument: the יבום problem
16. ChallengeIs the husband really the one uprooting?
17. ResolutionNew wording: he stipulates to uproot
18. ChallengeHe never told her to marry the brother
19. ResolutionNew wording: he causes the uprooting
20. ChallengeThen nobody could marry his niece
21. ConclusionThis is the weakness רבא meant
22. QuestionWhich case was רבי טרפון talking about?
23. ProofProof that the 'except so-and-so' case doesn't fit
24. ResponseIt must be the 'on condition' divorce
25. Statementרבי יוסי הגלילי: forbidden means forbidden to everyone
26. Challengeתרומה and קדשים are forbidden to some and permitted to others
27. ResolutionHe meant prohibitions about a woman
28. ChallengeBut עריות are forbidden to some men only
29. ResolutionHe meant a woman forbidden because she is married
30. ChallengeBut a married woman is forbidden to some and permitted to one
31. ConclusionThis is the weak point in רבי יוסי הגלילי's argument
32. QuestionWhich case was רבי יוסי הגלילי talking about?
33. ResponseHe was talking about 'except for so-and-so'
34. Statementרבי עקיבא's challenge: she may later marry the forbidden man
35. ChallengeThen she could never remarry after any conditional גט
36. ConclusionThis is the weak point in רבי עקיבא's argument
37. QuestionWhich case was רבי עקיבא's objection about? Not the 'except' case
38. Proofברייתא: in the 'except' case, רבי אליעזר permits the forbidden man after an in-between marriage
39. ResponseSo רבי עקיבא's objection was about the 'on condition' case
40. Statementרבי עקיבא's second argument: the forbidden man is a כהן
41. ProofThe קל וחומר: the 'married' status should spread to everyone
42. QuestionWhich case was the second argument about? Testing the 'on condition' case