Kesubos 107a
כתובות ק״ז ע״א
Ketubot 107a
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Topic
Whether the court gives food support from an absent husband's property to his wife, the reasons for שמואל's refusal, and how he answers the sources that seem to go against him.
Overview
רב rules that the court gives food support (מזונות) from a husband's property to his wife when he has gone overseas. שמואל rules that it does not, though he says רב agrees for the first three months. Everyone agrees she gets support once the husband is known to be dead. The argument is only when there is no word of his death. רב זביד explains that שמואל worries the husband left her money, and רב פפא explains that he worries the husband told her to live on her earnings. The two reasons give different results for a grown woman whose earnings are not enough, and for a young wife whose earnings are enough. The גמרא then challenges שמואל from a משנה and from several ברייתות where the court gives support. Each time it answers that the husband had been reported dead. For the last ברייתא, רב ששת's answer about a third party is rejected. רב פפא instead explains it as a case of one witness, which is enough for the wife but not for the children's inheritance. Finally, רב חסדא and רב יוסף argue whether the 'something else' in that ברייתא means jewelry or charity, and the comparison of their views continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
פּוֹסְקִין מְזוֹנוֹת לְאֵשֶׁת אִישׁ.
The court apportions food support for a married woman.
וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: אֵין פּוֹסְקִין מְזוֹנוֹת לְאֵשֶׁת אִישׁ.
And Shmuel said: The court does not apportion food support for a married woman.
אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: מוֹדֶה לִי אַבָּא
Shmuel said: Abba agrees with me
בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה חֳדָשִׁים הָרִאשׁוֹנִים,
regarding the first three months,
The steps (27)
- StatementDoes the court give food support to a wife whose husband is away?
- Statementשמואל says רב agrees for the first three months
- StatementThe argument is only when there is no news of the husband's death
- QuestionWhat is שמואל's reason?
- Responseרב זביד: he may have left her a bundle of money
- Responseרב פפא: he may have told her to keep her earnings instead
- QuestionWhat is the difference between the two reasons?
- ResponseThe difference: a grown woman whose earnings are not enough
- ResponseA second difference: a young wife whose earnings are enough
- ChallengeChallenge to שמואל from the משנה of חנן
- Resolutionשמואל: the משנה is about a husband reported dead
- ChallengeChallenge to שמואל from a ברייתא
- ResolutionHere too: they heard he died
- ChallengeBut the ברייתא says he came back
- ResolutionHe came back after a false report
- ChallengeAnother ברייתא where the court gave support
- ResolutionHere too, they heard he died
- ChallengeA ברייתא that says the court feeds the wife
- Resolutionרב ששת: he already fed her through a third party
- ChallengeThen the children should get support too
- ResolutionHe arranged it only for the wife
- ChallengeWhy does the ברייתא state it without any condition?
- Resolutionרב פפא: one witness said he died
- ResolutionWhy the sons and daughters are not fed
- QuestionWhat does 'something else' mean?
- ResponseJewelry or charity
- StatementComparing the two opinions begins