Gemara Clarity

Kesubos 28a

כתובות כ״ח ע״א

Ketubot 28a

Learn Kesubos 28a step by step: Aramaic beside English, every question, answer and proof colour-coded.

Open Kesubos 28a in Gemara Clarity

Topic

Keeping a divorced couple apart, and testimony as an adult about what one saw as a child

Overview

The amud starts by finishing a ברייתא about a divorced couple living near each other. If he is a כהן, she may not even share his alleyway, and a small village counts as too close. When they may not live together, she is the one who moves, unless the courtyard is hers. For a courtyard they share, one proof is tried and rejected. The answer then comes from a פסוק and רב's teaching that moving is harder for a man, so she moves. Next, a ברייתא says that if he owes her money, she is repaid only through a third person. רב נחמן limits this to a woman divorced after נישואין, though רבא's case shows that a couple who are clearly close are separated even after אירוסין. Then a new משנה lists things an adult may testify about from what he saw as a child: handwriting, a בתולה's wedding, a man eating תרומה, a בית הפרס, and the תחום שבת. It does not cover claims to someone's land. The גמרא explains the handwriting cases and the wedding case, and it learns from the תרומה case that one may not teach a slave תורה. A ברייתא challenging that rule begins at the end and continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

וְאִם הָיָה כֹּהֵן —

And if he was a priest —

לֹא תָּדוּר עִמּוֹ בְּמָבוֹי.

she may not live with him in an alleyway.

אִם הָיָה כְּפָר קָטָן —

If it was a small village —

זֶה הָיָה מַעֲשֶׂה

this was an actual incident

The steps (32)

  1. StatementA כהן's ex-wife may not share his alleyway
  2. StatementA small village counts as too close
  3. QuestionWho has to move away?
  4. ResponseShe moves, unless the courtyard is hers
  5. QuestionWhat if they own the courtyard together?
  6. ProofTrying to prove she moves from a shared courtyard
  7. RejectionMaybe he only rented the courtyard
  8. QuestionSo what is the final ruling?
  9. ResponseMoving is harder for a man, so she moves
  10. StatementRepayment of a loan from her property must go through someone else
  11. Statementרב ששת: the court will not hear their case
  12. Statementרב פפא: we put them in נידוי
  13. Statementרב הונא בריה דרב יהושע: we also give them lashes
  14. Statementאבל רבתי: the rule is only for a woman divorced after marriage
  15. Statementרבא puts a messenger between a couple divorced after betrothal
  16. Challengeרב אדא challenges רבא from אבל רבתי
  17. Resolutionרבא: these two are clearly close
  18. StatementSecond version: רבא did not separate them, and רב אדא suggests he should
  19. Challengeרבא pushes back with אבל רבתי
  20. Resolutionרב אדא: the rule is only for couples who are not close
  21. StatementNew משנה: adults believed about what they saw as children
  22. StatementRecognizing the handwriting of a father, teacher, or brother
  23. StatementMore things an adult is believed about from childhood
  24. StatementCases where he is not believed: claims on land
  25. StatementThe handwriting case needs an adult witness alongside
  26. StatementWhy both a father and a teacher are mentioned
  27. StatementWhy the brother's handwriting also had to be listed
  28. QuestionWhy we trust childhood memory of a בתולה's wedding
  29. ResponseMost women marry as בתולות, so it only reveals the matter
  30. ChallengeMaybe the boy eating תרומה was a כהן's slave
  31. ProofA slave is not taught תורה, which supports רבי יהושע בן לוי
  32. ChallengeA ברייתא seems to show a slave can be taught