Kesubos 44a

כתובות מ״ד ע״א

Ketubot 44a

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Topic

When a second document cancels the first; when the כתובה's lien begins; and the punishment of a betrothed נערה from a convert family

Overview

The amud opens by finishing an explanation from the discussion just before it: the wife cannot collect the extra amount of a second כתובה from the earlier date, because he never wrote 'I added to your first כתובה,' so she gave up her first lien. The גמרא then asks whether רב הונא's ruling, that she may collect with either כתובה, argues with רב נחמן's rule that a second document cancels the first. It answers with רב פפא: רב נחמן agrees that if the second document adds anything, even a palm tree, it is an addition. Next the גמרא studies רב נחמן's rule directly. A sale followed by a gift, or a gift followed by a sale, does not cancel the first document, because the second was written for protection. The rule applies only when both documents are the same type. רפרם and רב אחא give two different reasons for the rule, and the גמרא lists the practical differences: the witnesses' trust, paying for produce, and the land tax. The גמרא then rules that the lien for the whole כתובה, both the basic sum and the תוספת, starts only from נישואין. Finally a new משנה teaches how a betrothed נערה who sinned is punished when she or her mother converted, and that the father's doorway is only the preferred place for the סקילה.

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The steps (20)

1. ResolutionWhy she cannot collect the extra amount from the earlier date
2. ChallengeDoes רב הונא disagree with רב נחמן?
3. Resolutionרב נחמן agrees when something was added
4. StatementRestating רב נחמן's rule for direct study
5. StatementRestating רב פפא's limit on the rule
6. StatementObvious case: a sale document followed by a gift document
7. StatementAll the more so: first a gift, then a sale
8. ConclusionWhen the rule really applies: both sale or both gift
9. QuestionWhy does the second document cancel the first?
10. Responseרפרם: he admitted. רב אחא: he gave up his lien.
11. QuestionWhat is the difference between the two explanations?
12. ResponseThree differences: witnesses, produce, and land tax
13. QuestionWhat is the final ruling about the כתובה?
14. Responseרבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון splits the כתובה into two parts
15. Statementחכמים say both parts start from נישואין
16. ConclusionThe הלכה follows חכמים
17. StatementA girl who converted with her mother and then sinned
18. StatementConceived before conversion, born after
19. StatementConceived and born after conversion: a full בת ישראל
20. StatementNo father's doorway still means stoning