Kesubos 64a

כתובות ס״ד ע״א

Ketubot 64a

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Topic

The מורדת: unresolved claims to her belongings, the twelve-month wait for a גט, the אגרת מרד for an ארוסה and a שומרת יבם, and the weekly amounts in the משנה (טרפעיקין and שבת)

Overview

The גמרא first objects to a ruling made against רב זביד. That ruling decided a question that רבא never answered. Since the question has no answer, the rule is simple: if the מורדת already grabbed the item, she keeps it, and if she did not, the court does not give it to her. Next, a מורדת waits twelve months for her גט, and her husband does not feed her during that time. Then שמואל teaches that an אגרת מרד is written for an ארוסה but not for a שומרת יבם. A ברייתא seems to say the opposite. The גמרא tries several ways to settle this: who made the demand, then חליצה versus יבום. It finally says the ברייתא follows the earlier rule that יבום comes first, and שמואל follows the later rule that חליצה comes first. Last, the גמרא explains the coin טרפעיקין in the משנה as half a dinar. It begins to explain why שבת is counted when the wife's כתובה is reduced but not when the husband must add to it. That answer finishes on the next amud.

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The steps (28)

1. ChallengeChallenging the ruling made against רב זביד
2. ConclusionUnresolved question: whoever holds the item keeps it
3. StatementA twelve-month wait for the גט, with no food support
4. Statementשמואל: an אגרת מרד is written for an ארוסה but not for a שומרת יבם
5. ChallengeA ברייתא includes the שומרת יבם
6. ResolutionIt depends on who made the demand
7. ProofSupport from another teaching of שמואל
8. ChallengeThe wording of שמואל's ruling does not fit a case where she made the demand
9. ResolutionFix the wording to say 'for an engaged woman'
10. QuestionWhy no letter for a שומרת יבם?
11. ResponseShe is told: you are not commanded
12. ChallengeThe same reason should apply to an engaged woman
13. ResolutionThe engaged woman comes with a real claim
14. ChallengeA שומרת יבם could bring the same claim
15. ResolutionNew reading: both cases are where he made the demand
16. Proofרבי יוחנן supports the חליצה/יבום split
17. QuestionWhy doesn't the court back a demand for יבום?
18. ResponseHe is told to marry someone else
19. ChallengeThe same reason should apply to חליצה
20. ResolutionThe יבם who wants חליצה cannot find another wife
21. ChallengeThe same claim works for the יבם who wants יבום
22. ResolutionBoth sources deal with יבום, from different periods
23. ProofThe משנה that shows the change from יבום first to חליצה first
24. QuestionWhat is a טרפעיק?
25. ResponseA טרפעיק is an אסתירא, worth half a dinar
26. ProofA ברייתא confirms the half-dinar value
27. QuestionWhy does the husband get credit for שבת but the wife does not?
28. ResponseTaking money off does not look like being paid for שבת