Kesubos 71a

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Ketubot 71a

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Topic

A husband's vow against his wife without a set time limit: the dispute between רב and שמואל, and who is to blame when a wife's vow is upheld

Overview

This amud opens with the last words of an earlier discussion, which point to the incident of בית חורון. The גמרא then asks why רבי יהודה in the משנה seems to repeat the תנא קמא. אביי and רבא each explain what he adds. Next, רב and שמואל argue about a husband who makes a vow with no time limit. The גמרא explains why their argument had to appear in two different משניות. It then challenges שמואל from the case of a vow against tasting a fruit. To defend him, it says the wife made the vow and the husband upheld it, which leads to a long rearranging of the names in a ברייתא about who is to blame for an unrevoked vow. Finally, the גמרא starts a new contradiction about whether רבי יוסי holds that a husband can cancel a vow about adorning, and that discussion continues on the next amud.

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The steps (23)

1. ConclusionThe incident of בית חורון closes the earlier discussion
2. StatementQuoting רבי יהודה's view in the משנה
3. ChallengeIsn't this the same as the first opinion?
4. Resolutionאביי: רבי יהודה adds the rule for a כהן's wife
5. Resolutionרבא: a full month versus a short month
6. Statementרב: the time limits apply only when he sets a time
7. Statementשמואל: even without a time limit, do not rush the divorce
8. ChallengeThey already argued about this once before
9. ChallengeThe earlier argument between רב and שמואל, word for word
10. ResolutionWhy the argument had to be stated twice
11. ChallengeThe fruit-tasting case challenges שמואל
12. ResolutionThe case is where she made the vow and he upheld it
13. ChallengeA ברייתא shows רבי מאיר blames the wife
14. ChallengeThe other side of the ברייתא: the husband is responsible
15. ResolutionSwap the names in the ברייתא
16. ChallengeBut רבי יוסי in our משנה holds the husband responsible
17. ResolutionRe-pair the names: רבי מאיר with רבי יוסי
18. ChallengeBut רבי יהודה in our משנה also holds the husband responsible
19. ResolutionThree against one: only רבי אלעזר blames the wife
20. ResolutionIf the ברייתא must have pairs, put רבי מאיר with רבי אלעזר
21. ConclusionThen the unnamed משנה does not follow רבי מאיר
22. ChallengeDoes רבי יוסי hold that a husband can cancel a vow about adorning?
23. ChallengeContradiction from the משנה in נדרים about vows of affliction