Kesubos 72b

כתובות ע״ב ע״ב

Ketubot 72b

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Topic

Immodest behavior that costs a wife her כתובה, and a wife found to have vows or blemishes

Overview

The amud opens by finishing an earlier answer. By Torah law a basket on the head (קלתה) is enough, but דת יהודית demands a real covering. רבי זירא asks where רבי יוחנן's rule that a basket avoids פרוע ראש could apply, and אביי (or רב כהנא) answers that it applies when she walks between courtyards through an alleyway. The גמרא then explains more items from the משנה: spinning in the marketplace, talking with every man (with a story from רבה בר בר חנה), cursing the husband's parents, and the קולנית, which it concludes is about behavior and not a physical מום. A new משנה follows: if he betrothed her on condition that she has no נדרים or מומין and she does, there is no קידושין, and if he married her with no condition, she leaves without a כתובה. The גמרא explains why this repeats a משנה in קידושין, then defines the vows as ones of עינוי נפש. רב פפא and רב אשי disagree over which clause that definition explains. Finally, רב and שמואל argue whether she needs a גט when he betrothed her on a condition but married her without one, and אביי's comment continues on the next amud.

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The steps (29)

1. ResolutionTorah law allows a basket, Jewish custom does not
2. Statementרבי יוחנן: a basket avoids an uncovered head
3. Challengeרבי זירא: where could this be true?
4. ResolutionAnswer: walking between courtyards through an alleyway
5. StatementSpinning in the marketplace means showing her arms
6. StatementAnother view: spinning red thread by her face
7. StatementTalking with every man means flirting
8. StatementThe story of the Arab woman spinning
9. QuestionWhat did רב עוקבא say?
10. ResponseTwo answers: spinning or talking
11. StatementCursing the husband's parents in front of his children
12. StatementAn example of such a curse
13. QuestionWhat is a קולנית?
14. Responseשמואל: she raises her voice about intimate matters
15. ResponseA ברייתא: her voice is heard in another courtyard
16. ChallengeThen it belongs with the physical blemishes
17. ConclusionBack to the first explanation
18. StatementNew משנה: marrying a woman who turns out to have vows
19. StatementThe משנה's ruling on a wife found to have blemishes
20. StatementWhich blemishes count for women
21. ChallengeWhy repeat what we already learned in קידושין?
22. ResolutionEach tractate needed its own half
23. StatementWhich vows the משנה means
24. ProofA ברייתא supports רבי יוחנן
25. Questionרב פפא asks which clause this explains
26. RejectionIt cannot be the first clause
27. ResponseIt refers to the second clause
28. Resolutionרב אשי: The list of vows explains the case with a condition
29. Statementרב and שמואל argue: conditional betrothal, then marriage with no condition