Kesubos 75a
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Ketubot 75a
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Topic
Public vows, remarrying a wife divorced over a vow, a woman's extra blemishes, praise of ארץ ישראל, and who must prove when a bride's blemishes began
Overview
This amud opens by asking how many people make a vow 'public', so that it cannot be released, as with the oath to the גבעונים. רב נחמן בר יצחק says three and רבי יצחק says ten. Next comes a משנה where רבי מאיר and רבי אלעזר argue about remarrying a wife who was divorced over a vow. The גמרא explains that the real question is whether a husband is willing to have his wife embarrassed in בית דין. רבא then explains a ברייתא about a woman betrothed on condition that she has no vows. The גמרא challenges him, and the answer is that a woman is happy with almost any husband, which several sages show with popular sayings. The גמרא then lists blemishes that count in a woman but not in a כהן: sweat, bad breath, a hidden mole, a dog-bite scar, a deep voice, and unusual breasts. A short aggadic passage praises ארץ ישראל and those who go up to it. Finally, a new משנה begins on who must prove when a bride's blemishes started, and the view of the חכמים continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
״וְלֹא הִכּוּם בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל
"And the children of Israel did not smite them,
כִּי נִשְׁבְּעוּ לָהֶם נְשִׂיאֵי הָעֵדָה״,
for the princes of the assembly had sworn to them."
וְכַמָּה רַבִּים?
And how many are 'many'?
רַב נַחְמָן בַּר יִצְחָק אָמַר: שְׁלֹשָׁה.
Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: Three.
The steps (40)
- ProofThe oath to the גבעונים could not be undone
- QuestionHow many people count as 'many'?
- Responseרב נחמן בר יצחק: three people
- Responseרבי יצחק: ten people
- StatementThe משנה: רבי מאיר and רבי אלעזר on remarrying after a vow
- QuestionWhat is the root of their disagreement?
- ResponseIs a husband willing to have his wife embarrassed in court?
- Resolutionרבא: the ברייתא is about an important woman
- ChallengeChallenge from the ברייתא's second half
- ResolutionA woman is happy with almost any husband
- ProofMore sayings showing women prefer any husband
- StatementA side remark about these women
- StatementThree extra blemishes that count for women
- ChallengeDon't these blemishes disqualify כהנים too?
- ResolutionSweat that washes off versus sweat that stays
- ResolutionSweat is different from filth, and a כהן can cover it for a short time
- ChallengeWhat kind of mole counts only for a woman?
- ProofA ברייתא shows the rules for moles
- ResolutionA small mole on her forehead
- ChallengeA mole on the forehead was already seen
- ResolutionA mole under her head covering, sometimes seen
- StatementA scar from a dog bite is a blemish
- StatementA deep voice is a blemish in a woman
- Statementרבי נתן בירָאָה: a טפח between a woman's breasts
- Statementרב אחא בריה דרבא: a טפח is a mark of beauty
- Rejectionרב אשי: the ברייתא is about blemishes
- QuestionHow wide is normal?
- Responseאביי: three fingers
- Statementרבי נתן: breasts larger than normal are a blemish
- QuestionHow much larger counts as a blemish?
- ResponseThe measure is a handbreadth
- QuestionCan such a thing really happen?
- Responseרבה בר בר חנה's story of the Arab woman
- StatementTwo kinds of children of Zion
- Statementאביי: one of them is worth two of us
- Statementרבא: a Babylonian who moves there is worth two of them
- ProofProof from רבי ירמיה
- StatementNew משנה: blemishes found while she is in her father's house
- StatementBlemishes found after she enters the husband's home
- StatementThe Rabbis begin to limit רבי מאיר's rule