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Kesubos 90a

כתובות צ׳ ע״א

Ketubot 90a

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Topic

Which כתובה payments are valid: the minor husband or convert, and the order of priority between two wives and their heirs.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing an earlier case. A woman holds both a גט and a כתובה from the same husband. If the גט is dated first, she collects two כתובות. If the כתובה is dated first, she collects only one. Next a משנה rules that the כתובה of a husband who married as a קטן, or of a גר who converted together with his wife, stays valid. רב הונא limits this to the basic מנה or מאתיים, while רב יהודה says she collects the תוספת too. A ברייתא refutes רב יהודה, and the גמרא explains that the משנה's words misled him. After the הדרן, a new chapter begins with a משנה on which of two wives, or their heirs, collects first from a dead husband's estate. The גמרא tries in two opposite versions to learn from the משנה's wording whether a later creditor who collected first keeps what he took. Each attempt is pushed back, and the second rejection finishes on the next amud.

Opening lines

אִם גֵּט קוֹדֵם לַכְּתוּבָּה —

If the divorce document comes before the marriage contract,

גּוֹבָה שְׁתֵּי כְּתוּבּוֹת.

she collects two marriage contracts.

כְּתוּבָּה קוֹדֶמֶת לַגֵּט —

If the marriage contract comes before the divorce document,

אֵינָהּ גּוֹבָה אֶלָּא כְּתוּבָּה אַחַת,

she collects only one marriage contract,

The steps (18)

  1. ConclusionClosing the previous case: the order of the dates decides
  2. StatementNew משנה: the כתובה of a minor husband or a convert stays valid
  3. Statementרב הונא: only the basic amount, not the extra
  4. Statementרב יהודה: she gets the extra amount too
  5. ChallengeA ברייתא challenges רב יהודה
  6. ResolutionMaybe she collects the new amount on top of everything
  7. ChallengeThe rest of the ברייתא rules out that reading
  8. Conclusionרב יהודה is refuted
  9. ConclusionHow the משנה's wording misled רב יהודה
  10. ConclusionHadran — Closing the chapter הכותב לאשתו
  11. StatementWith two wives, the first wife collects first
  12. StatementWhen the first wife died before her husband
  13. ProofReading the word 'precedes' in the משנה
  14. ProofA proposed general rule about a later creditor
  15. Rejection'Precedes' can mean 'completely comes first'
  16. ProofSecond version: the משנה's silence means we take the property from the second wife
  17. ProofProposed rule: a later creditor who collected first loses what he took
  18. RejectionRejection: a later creditor keeps what he collected, and the wording comes from the next clause