Kiddushin 72b

קידושין ע״ב ע״ב

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Topic

צדיקים replacing each other, אגדה about פלטיהו, the lineage of lands, the future purification of ממזרים, and whether a גר may marry a ממזרת

Overview

The amud opens with the last words of רבי on the day he died: a baby has just entered אברהם's covenant, and רב יהודה has just been born. From a chain of sages, each born as the previous one died, the גמרא learns that a צדיק never leaves the world before an equal צדיק is created. It gives a second example from עלי and שמואל. Next it explains a פסוק in איכה with the town הומניא, and brings a disagreement between רב and שמואל on whether יחזקאל's cry over פלטיהו בן בניה was 'for good' or 'for bad.' The גמרא tries to prove which view is שמואל's from his statement about the lineage of מישן, but that proof is pushed back using שמואל's rule that an ownerless slave goes free. The גמרא then returns to lineage: שמואל says the משנה follows רבי מאיר, while the חכמים presume all lands are fine, and אמימר relies on this in a real marriage case despite רב אשי's challenge. A ברייתא follows on whether ממזרים will be purified in the future, and the הלכה follows רבי יוסי that they will. Finally, a new ברייתא asks whether a גר may marry a ממזרת, and the explanation of רבי יוסי's reason continues on the next amud.

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The steps (28)

1. StatementA baby joins אברהם's covenant, and רב יהודה is born
2. ProofA chain of sages, each born as the one before him died
3. ConclusionThe lesson: a צדיק leaves only after another is created
4. ProofThe same pattern with עלי and שמואל
5. StatementEnemies all around: הומניא next to פום נהרא
6. Statementרב and שמואל argue about פלטיהו's death
7. StatementThe 'for good' view begins: the governor of מישן asks for captives
8. StatementPelatiah sends the slaves instead of the nobles
9. StatementThe 'for bad' view brings two verses
10. ProofReading 'their backs to the Sanctuary' as a disgraceful act
11. ProofProving that שמואל is the one who says 'for bad'
12. Rejectionשמואל can still hold the 'for good' view
13. Proofשמואל's source: a slave is only one under his master's control
14. StatementThe משנה follows רבי מאיר; the חכמים presume all lands are fine
15. Statementאמימר allows a marriage to a woman from מחוזא
16. Challengeרב אשי: other study houses did not teach שמואל's statement
17. Resolutionאמימר keeps his ruling based on רב זביד of נהרדעא
18. StatementWill ממזרים and נתינים be pure in the future?
19. Proofרבי יוסי's proof: 'I will sprinkle pure water on you'
20. Rejectionרבי מאיר: the פסוק only lists impurity and idols
21. Resolutionרבי יוסי: 'I will purify you' includes ממזרות
22. ChallengeA verse about a ממזר in אשדוד seems to fit only רבי מאיר
23. Resolutionרב יוסף's translation reads the verse differently
24. ConclusionThe הלכה follows רבי יוסי
25. StatementWithout this ruling, אליהו would remove whole groups from us
26. StatementMay a גר marry a ממזרת? רבי יוסי and רבי יהודה argue
27. QuestionWhat is רבי יוסי's reason?
28. ResponseFive mentions of 'congregation' are written