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Kiddushin 81a

קידושין פ״א ע״א

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Topic

The laws of יחוד, the punishments connected to it, and stories about the strength of the יצר הרע

Overview

This amud is about יחוד, a man and a woman being alone together. רב rules that two men with a woman are enough in a city, but on the road you need three. The גמרא tries to prove this from the סוטה case and rejects the proof. In a story, רב is strict even with himself and רב יהודה, explaining that 'upright men' means people like רבי חנינא בר פפי. רב rules that בית דין flogs for יחוד, and רב אשי limits this to an unmarried woman so no rumors spread about a married woman's children. רב also allows flogging for a bad rumor. The גמרא then lists cases where יחוד is not a concern: the husband in town, an open door to the street, and room setups, where a ברייתא disagrees with רב כהנא and אביי is strict both ways. Stories about רב עמרם חסידא, רבי מאיר, רבי עקיבא and פלימו show how strong the יצר הרע is. פלימו's story continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

לְאַתְרוֹיֵי בֵּיהּ.

to warn him.

אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב:

Rav Yehuda said that Rav said:

לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בָּעִיר,

They taught this only in a city,

אֲבָל בַּדֶּרֶךְ – עַד שֶׁיִּהְיוּ שְׁלֹשָׁה,

but on the road, not until there are three,

The steps (39)

  1. ResponseThe scholars know how to warn him
  2. StatementOn the road, three men are needed
  3. ProofA suggested proof from the סוטה case
  4. RejectionThe two scholars are there as witnesses
  5. Statementרב tells רב יהודה to hurry away
  6. ChallengeDidn't you allow it for trustworthy men?
  7. ResolutionWho says we count as upright?
  8. QuestionThen who does count?
  9. ResponseLike רבי חנינא בר פפי and his friends
  10. StatementFlogging for יחוד, but no prohibition
  11. StatementNo flogging for יחוד with a married woman
  12. Statementמר זוטרא flogs and announces the reason
  13. ChallengeWhy doesn't רב אשי also flog and announce?
  14. ResolutionSome will hear the flogging but not the reason
  15. StatementFlogging because of a bad rumor
  16. StatementHow מר זוטרא carried out the flogging
  17. StatementHer husband is in town
  18. StatementA door open to the street
  19. Statementרב ביבי asks to remove the ladder
  20. ChallengeBut רבה said a husband in town is enough
  21. Resolutionרב ביבי was close with her
  22. StatementMen outside, women inside
  23. ChallengeA ברייתא teaches the opposite of רב כהנא
  24. Conclusionאביי decides to be strict both ways
  25. StatementHow אביי and רבא separated men and women
  26. StatementThe festival is the riskiest time of year
  27. StatementCaptive women stay in רב עמרם's house
  28. Statementרב עמרם is tempted and starts climbing
  29. StatementHalfway up, רב עמרם stops himself and cries fire
  30. StatementThe רבנן feel shamed, and רב עמרם answers
  31. Conclusionרב עמרם forces out his יצר הרע and declares victory
  32. Statementרבי מאיר is tested by a woman across the river
  33. ConclusionHeaven's protection saves רבי מאיר
  34. Statementרבי עקיבא is tested by a woman atop a palm tree
  35. ConclusionHeaven's protection saves רבי עקיבא
  36. Statementפלימו mocks the שטן, who comes as a poor man
  37. StatementThe poor man asks to come inside
  38. StatementThe poor man asks to sit at the table
  39. StatementThe poor man acts disgustingly at the table