Me’ilah 11b

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Meilah 11b

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Topic

מעילה after an item's מצוה is done, the wine of the נסכים in the pipes, and items that are forbidden but carry no מעילה

Overview

The גמרא is working with the rule that once an item's מצוה is done, מעילה no longer applies to it. It challenges this rule with תרומת הדשן, which still carries מעילה after its מצוה. The answer is that two cases sharing an unusual law (שני כתובין הבאין כאחד) do not teach a general rule. The גמרא pairs תרומת הדשן first with the scapegoat's limbs, then with the בגדי כהונה, then with עגלה ערופה, so the answer works for each opinion. For the view that two such cases do teach, it points to an exclusion word in each פסוק. Next, the גמרא asks whether the משנה about נסכים fits רבי אלעזר בר רבי צדוק, who says the hardened wine in the pipes is burned בקדושה. Two versions are given, and in the second, the burning is only מדרבנן and the פסוק is an אסמכתא. Finally, a new משנה lists items that may not be used but carry no מעילה, and the גמרא begins its question on it, which continues on the next amud.

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The steps (19)

1. ChallengeChallenge from the removal of the ashes
2. ResolutionTwo special cases do not teach a general rule
3. ChallengeWhat about the view that the scapegoat's limbs are permitted?
4. ResolutionA different partner: the priestly garments
5. ChallengeThe garments pairing fails for רבי דוסא
6. ResolutionPair תרומת הדשן with עגלה ערופה instead
7. ChallengeThe answer only works if two verses do not teach
8. ResolutionTwo exclusion words limit the rule to these two cases
9. ChallengeDoes the משנה about libations disagree with רבי אלעזר בר רבי צדוק?
10. ProofThe ברייתא about burning the leftover libation wine
11. QuestionWhere does the verse teach burning?
12. ResponseLearning from the word holy by leftover offerings
13. RejectionThe משנה can follow him, in a case where the wine was caught
14. QuestionSecond version: suggesting the משנה follows him
15. RejectionNo, the burning is only a rabbinic rule
16. ChallengeBut he quoted a פסוק
17. ResolutionThe פסוק is only a support
18. StatementNew משנה: ashes, the מנורה, and birds of the wrong age
19. QuestionThe גמרא opens its question on the משנה