Menachos 13a

מנחות י״ג ע״א

Menachot 13a

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Topic

Combining intentions for פיגול, and רבי יוסי's view on the לבונה of a מנחה

Overview

The amud opens by asking why our משנה is needed at all, according to אביי. The גמרא first shows that the rule that two half-olive eating intentions combine into פיגול is already implied by the previous משנה. It then argues that the rule that eating and burning intentions do not combine seems obvious by a קל וחומר from the first clause. It answers that this rule was still needed. The earlier case might fail only because one intention was unusual, but eating and burning are each normal, so we might have thought they combine. Then the chapter כל המנחות closes with הדרן, and a new chapter begins with a משנה. רבי יוסי agrees that a next-day plan for the שיריים or the קומץ makes the מנחה פיגול, but he holds that a plan about the לבונה makes it only פסול. When חכמים compare this to an animal offering, he answers that an animal is one unit, but the לבונה is not part of the מנחה. The גמרא then asks why the משנה says 'רבי יוסי agrees,' and starts explaining that this wording rules out a mistaken reason for his view. That explanation continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (13)

1. ChallengeWhy do we need this משנה at all?
2. RejectionThe combining of two half-olive eating intentions is already known
3. RejectionEating and burning not combining is also already known
4. ProofExplaining the 'how much more so' logic
5. ResolutionThe eating-and-burning case was still needed
6. ResolutionTwo normal intentions might seem to combine
7. ConclusionHadran — Closing פרק כל המנחות
8. StatementNew chapter: when רבי יוסי agrees, and when he argues
9. Challengeחכמים compare the מנחה to an animal offering
10. Resolutionרבי יוסי: the animal is one unit, but the לבונה is separate
11. QuestionWhy does the משנה say 'רבי יוסי agrees'?
12. ResponseThe words are there because of the לבונה case that follows
13. ResponseWhat we might have wrongly thought about רבי יוסי's reason