Menachos 75b

מנחות ע״ה ע״ב

Menachot 75b

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Topic

Breaking the מנחה into pieces (פתיתה), and the ברכה on small pieces of bread

Overview

The amud opens with רבה finishing the earlier discussion. He says the מנחת מאפה is the offering that needs two exclusions. A new משנה then teaches how a מנחה is folded and broken. For a regular person's מנחה, the כהן folds it into four and separates the pieces. For the מנחת כהנים, he folds it but does not separate the pieces. For the מנחת כהן משיח, he does not fold it at all. רבי שמעון says the כהן offerings are not broken at all, because no קמיצה is taken from them. Every broken offering is broken into olive-sized pieces. A ברייתא learns these rules from the פסוק, and רבה answers that the כהן משיח's offering is folded into two but not into four. רב יוסף uses the olive-sized pieces to rule that bread pieces of a כזית get המוציא and smaller pieces get מזונות. אביי challenges him and the גמרא goes back and forth over this. The final ruling is רב ששת's: even crumbs smaller than a כזית get המוציא. רבא adds that this is only when the crumbs still look like bread.

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The steps (19)

1. Statementרבה: the baked offering is the one that needs two exclusions
2. StatementThe משנה: how each type of offering is folded
3. Statementרבי שמעון: offerings with no handful are not broken at all
4. StatementAll broken offerings are broken into olive-sized pieces
5. StatementThe verse says pieces, so more than two
6. StatementThe word "it" means not down to crumbs
7. StatementHow the breaking works in practice
8. ChallengeBut the משנה said the anointed priest's offering is not folded
9. Resolutionרבה: folded into two, but not into four
10. Statementרבי שמעון: no breaking for the priests' offerings
11. Statementרב יוסף: the blessing depends on olive-sized pieces
12. Proofרב יוסף's proof from the meal offerings
13. Challengeאביי: what about the view that crushes them into flour?
14. ChallengeCrumbs still count as bread for חמץ and מצה
15. ResolutionThe crumbs were pressed together
16. ChallengeThe plural wording does not fit pressed crumbs
17. ResolutionThe crumbs came from a large loaf
18. ConclusionFinal ruling: even small crumbs get המוציא
19. ConclusionOnly if the crumbs still look like bread