Menachos 95a
מנחות צ״ה ע״א
Menachot 95a
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Topic
The shape of the לחם הפנים, its status during the desert journeys, and the holiness of the camps when the משכן was taken apart
Overview
The amud first finishes the argument about the shape of the לחם הפנים. A ברייתא about a square tablet seems to challenge the view that the bread looked like a rocking boat. The גמרא answers that only the mold's opening was square, and a second ברייתא about forked golden supports backs the rocking-boat view. Next comes a new question: when the משכן was taken apart and carried in the desert, did the לחם הפנים become פסול? רבי יוחנן and רבי יהושע בן לוי disagree, and each side brings a פסוק and answers the other's פסוק. רב דימי reframes the dispute as being only about bread removed from the שולחן. A ברייתא and a מה נפשך argument then knock out that version. רבין concludes that there is no dispute: bread still arranged on the שולחן stays kosher, and removed bread becomes פסול. אביי learns from the ברייתא that the משכן could be taken apart even at night. Then רב אשי settles a contradiction between two ברייתות about זבין and מצורעין by saying they follow רבי אליעזר and the רבנן, whose ברייתא begins at the end of the amud.
Opening lines
מֵיתִיבִי: כְּמִין כַּוֶּורֶת
They raised an objection: something like a reed basket
הָיָה לָהּ בַּתַּנּוּר,
it had in the oven,
וְדוֹמָה כְּמִין טַבְלָא מְרוּבַּעַת!
and it looked like a kind of four-cornered tablet!
אֵימָא: וּפִיהָ דּוֹמֶה
Say: and its opening looked
The steps (29)
- ChallengeA ברייתא describes the bread as looking like a square tablet
- ResolutionOnly the opening of the mold was square
- ProofGolden forked supports show the bread was boat-shaped
- QuestionWas the showbread disqualified during the desert journeys?
- Statementרבי יוחנן and רבי יהושע בן לוי disagree
- ProofSource for the view that the bread is disqualified
- ProofThe source for the view that the bread is not disqualified
- ChallengeWhat does the lenient view do with 'as they camp so they travel'?
- ResolutionThe lenient view reads the comparison the other way
- ChallengeWhat does the strict view do with 'the constant bread shall be on it'?
- Resolutionרב דימי: they only argue when the bread was taken off the table
- ProofWhy removed bread becomes disqualified while traveling
- ProofThe lenient view's source: it is still the Tent of Meeting
- ChallengeChallenging the lenient view with "As they encamp, so shall they journey"
- ResolutionReading the comparison the other way
- ChallengeChallenging the strict view with "Then the Tent of Meeting shall journey"
- ResolutionThat פסוק teaches the order of the banners
- QuestionWhere does the lenient view learn the banners rule?
- ResponseFrom "the camp of the Levites in the midst of the camps"
- ChallengeA ברייתא says holy foods become disqualified when the משכן is taken apart
- ResolutionThe ברייתא does not include the showbread
- ChallengeEither way, the showbread cannot be different
- Resolutionרבין: arranged bread versus removed bread
- Statementאביי: the משכן could be taken apart at night
- ProofOtherwise the ברייתא should have said לינה
- ChallengeIsn't night travel already obvious from a verse?
- ResolutionThe verse might cover only a journey that began by day
- ChallengeA second ברייתא lets זבין and מצורעין in once the curtains are rolled up
- Resolutionרב אשי says the two ברייתות follow different opinions