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Nazir 14b

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Topic

טומאה during צרעת and hair-growth days, רב חסדא's 'no fix' after the blood, and which איסורים still apply to a נזיר whose days are complete.

Overview

The amud opens with a second argument between רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש. A נזיר who had צרעת became טמא מת during his צרעת. Does that wipe out (סותר) his earlier days? רבי יוחנן says yes, because he is still inside his נזירות. ריש לקיש says no, because צרעת and נזירות are separate. The גמרא explains why this argument must be recorded both here and in the earlier case of נזירות for a son. Next, רב and שמואל argue about טומאה during the hair-growth days after the צרעת, and each shows his view fits even the opposing אמורא. רב חסדא then rules that once the hair was made holy by the blood, טומאה leaves 'no fix'. The גמרא explains he follows the רבנן and means only the מצוה of shaving. Finally, רבי יוסי ברבי חנינא rules that a נזיר whose days are over still gets מלקות for טומאה, but not for shaving or wine. The גמרא challenges why the word 'כל' does not extend shaving and wine too, and the answer comes on the next amud.

Opening lines

נִטְמָא בִּימֵי צָרַעְתּוֹ —

If he became impure during the days of his leprosy —

רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: סוֹתֵר.

Rabbi Yochanan says: it negates.

רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אָמַר: אֵינוֹ סוֹתֵר.

Reish Lakish says: it does not negate.

רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר סוֹתֵר,

Rabbi Yochanan says it negates,

The steps (16)

  1. StatementImpurity during the days of leprosy: does it wipe out the earlier days?
  2. StatementThe reasons behind each opinion
  3. ResolutionWhy the argument is needed in this case too
  4. ConclusionWhy the argument is needed in the first case too, so both are needed
  5. Statementרב: becoming impure during the hair-growth days does not cancel the earlier days
  6. Statementשמואל: becoming impure during the hair-growth days does cancel the earlier days
  7. Statementרב חסדא: if the hair was made holy by the blood, there is no fix
  8. QuestionWhose opinion does רב חסדא follow?
  9. ChallengeIt cannot follow רבי אליעזר, since then the impurity should just cancel
  10. ChallengeIt cannot follow the רבנן either, since for them the נזירות is already over
  11. ResolutionIt follows the רבנן: 'no fix' means no way to do the מצוה of shaving
  12. StatementA finished נזיר is flogged for impurity but not for shaving or wine
  13. QuestionWhy is impurity different?
  14. ResponseThe word 'all' includes the days after completion
  15. ChallengeShaving should also bring lashes
  16. ChallengeWine should also bring lashes