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Nazir 36b

נזיר ל״ו ע״ב

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Topic

Is כזית בכדי אכילת פרס דאורייתא? אביי challenges רב דימי from כותח and from 'שאני אומר' in mixtures of תרומה

Overview

רב דימי had taught that permitted food joins forbidden food to reach the minimum amount only in the laws of a נזיר. אביי challenges this from a source that speaks of a כזית in a mixture. רב דימי answers that the source means a real כזית of the forbidden food eaten within the time of אכילת פרס, and he confirms that this measure is דאורייתא. אביי asks why, then, the רבנן disagree with רבי אלעזר about כותח הבבלי. רב דימי explains that with כותח you never actually eat a כזית of חמץ in that time. אביי then brings a ברייתא about two spice mortars and two pots, where we rely on 'שאני אומר' to permit both. רב דימי first shows that the question bothers every view. He then answers that תרומה of spices is only rabbinic. אביי brings a similar ברייתא about baskets of regular produce, and רב דימי's reply comes on the next amud.

Opening lines

לָאו מִשּׁוּם דְּהֶיתֵּר

Is it not because the permitted food

מִצְטָרֵף לְאִיסּוּר?

combines with the forbidden food?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לָא,

He said to him: No,

מַאי ״כְּזַיִת״ —

what is meant by 'a כזית'?

The steps (12)

  1. ChallengeIsn't the Reason That Permitted Food Joins Forbidden Food?
  2. ResolutionThe כזית Means a כזית Eaten Within אכילת פרס
  3. QuestionIs אכילת פרס From the Torah?
  4. ResponseYes, It Is From the Torah
  5. ChallengeThen Why Do the רבנן Disagree About כותח הבבלי?
  6. ResolutionWith כותח, You Never Get a כזית in Time
  7. ChallengeA New Challenge: Two Mortars and Two Pots
  8. ChallengeWhy rely on 'שאני אומר' if אכילת פרס is Torah law?
  9. Rejectionרב דימי shows the question bothers everyone
  10. ResolutionSpice תרומה is only rabbinic
  11. ChallengeA new ברייתא: two baskets that spilled
  12. ChallengeThe same question about the baskets