Nedarim 57b

נדרים נ״ז ע״ב

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Topic

End of the משנה about conditional vows between husband and wife, and the start of the גמרא: Does new growth from a planted forbidden onion (שביעית or תרומה) cancel the forbidden original?

Overview

The amud opens with the last lines of the משנה about a husband whose vow forbids his wife from benefiting from him if she visits her father's house, and how the timing of the condition works. The גמרא then quotes the next משנה ("קונם מעשה ידיך עלי") and brings a question raised by ישמעאל איש כפר ימא. An onion was uprooted in שביעית and replanted in the eighth year, and the permitted new growth became bigger than the forbidden original. Does the new growth cancel the prohibition? רבי יצחק נפחא proves that it does from רבי ינאי's ruling about a planted תרומה onion. רבי ירמיה (or רבי זריקא) objects that two sages rule the other way: רבי יוחנן on a young ערלה vine grafted onto an old vine, and רבי יונתן on an onion planted in a vineyard. רבי אמי then brings a proof from a replanted pound of tithed onions, which must be tithed on the whole crop. The גמרא rejects this proof because that ruling is a stringency. It begins a new proof from a ברייתא of רבי שמעון, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (12)

1. StatementEnd of the previous case: going after פסח violates בל יחל
2. StatementThe reversed case: forbidden until the Festival if she goes before פסח
3. StatementThe גמרא quotes the next משנה about "קונם מעשה ידיך"
4. Questionישמעאל's question: does new eighth-year growth cancel a שביעית onion?
5. Responseרבי יצחק נפחא answers from רבי ינאי's planted תרומה onion
6. ChallengeObjection: why follow one opinion against two?
7. QuestionWho are the two sages?
8. ResponseFirst of the two: רבי יוחנן on a young ערלה vine grafted onto an old vine
9. ResponseThe second sage: an onion planted in a vineyard stays forbidden
10. Proofרבי אמי's proof from a replanted pound of tithed onions
11. RejectionMaybe growths only cancel when the result is stricter
12. ProofA new proof is introduced from רבי שמעון