Nedarim 82a

נדרים פ״ב ע״א

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Topic

Whether vows affecting marital relations are עינוי נפש or דברים שבינו לבינה, and שמואל's rule on benefit vows, tested against the משנה about produce and a storekeeper.

Overview

The גמרא finishes a proof from a משנה about a woman who vows 'I am removed from the Jews.' Her husband cancels only his own part, so such vows seem to be דברים שבינו לבינה and not עינוי נפש. The proof is limited: that משנה follows רבי יוסי, since רב הונא says the whole פרק is רבי יוסי. The extra mention of רבי יוסי's name in the משנה shows this, so for the רבנן the question remains. Next, שמואל, quoting לוי, rules that a husband can cancel 'benefit from so-and-so is forbidden to me' but not 'benefit from me is forbidden to so-and-so.' A משנה about 'produce of this country' seems to clash with this. רב יוסף answers that she said 'that you bring.' The גמרא tries the same answer for the storekeeper case, but the end of that משנה shows the vow must be broad. So the גמרא starts a fresh answer, and it continues on the next amud.

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The steps (13)

1. ProofProof from the woman who is removed from the Jews
2. RejectionThe proof only works for רבי יוסי
3. Proofרב הונא: the whole chapter is רבי יוסי
4. QuestionHow do we know the chapter is רבי יוסי?
5. ResponseThe repeated name of רבי יוסי shows the rest is his
6. Statementשמואל: vows the husband can and cannot cancel about benefit
7. ChallengeChallenge from produce of this country
8. Resolutionרב יוסף: she said 'that you bring'
9. ChallengeA new challenge from the storekeeper case
10. ResolutionAnswer: she forbade only what her husband brings
11. ChallengeThe end of the משנה doesn't fit that answer
12. ChallengeSo the first clause must also cover produce she brings
13. ResolutionA fresh start: the first clause really is a broad vow