Pesachim 62b

פסחים ס״ב ע״ב

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Topic

Permitted טומאה, the הואיל challenge about other offerings slaughtered as a פסח, רבי שמלאי and ספר יוחסין, and intent about the people who will eat the פסח.

Overview

This amud opens by finishing a discussion of which kind of טומאה a ברייתא called 'permitted from its general rule.' The גמרא gives two answers. The first is that it means impure people, which is allowed when the ציבור is impure. The second is that it means impure meat, which is allowed in the case of a פסח brought in טומאה. Next, רב הונא בריה דרב יהושע uses a ברייתא about a פסח שעברה שנתו to challenge strict הואיל reasoning. רב פפא answers from the verse 'זבח פסח הוא': the two rules about a פסח and other offerings are tied together. The גמרא then tells how רבי שמלאי asked רבי יוחנן to teach him ספר יוחסין. רבי יוחנן was reluctant, but he answered רבי שמלאי's question about why mixed לשמו ושלא לשמו intent disqualifies a פסח while mixed לאוכליו ושלא לאוכליו intent does not. He gives four differences, and רב אשי shows that two of them are really one. After some praise of the lost ספר יוחסין, the amud ends with אחרים's ruling on intent for מולים and ערלים, along with a challenge that is answered on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (23)

1. RejectionImpurity of the meat is never permitted
2. ResponseIt means impurity of people, permitted in the community
3. ChallengeThe two clauses would discuss different impurities
4. ResolutionThe argument uses the general name of impurity
5. ResolutionSecond answer: impure meat is permitted for the פסח
6. Challengeרב הונא brings a ברייתא about a פסח past its first year
7. ChallengeWhy not disqualify outside its time too?
8. Resolutionרב פפא: the word "הוא" creates a special rule
9. ConclusionThe two rules mirror each other
10. Statementרבי שמלאי asks רבי יוחנן to teach him
11. Responseרבי יוחנן refuses but gives in
12. Questionרבי שמלאי asks to learn it in three months
13. Rejectionרבי יוחנן rebukes him using ברוריה
14. QuestionAs he leaves, רבי שמלאי asks a halachic question
15. ResponseFirst answer: the flaw is in the offering itself
16. ResponseSecond answer: the problem can or cannot be sorted out
17. ResponseThird difference: identity-intent works in all four rites
18. ResponseFourth difference: identity-intent applies to communal offerings too
19. Rejectionרב אשי: two of the reasons are really one
20. StatementSince ספר יוחסין was hidden, the Sages grew weaker
21. StatementFour hundred camel-loads of teachings between two verses
22. Statementאחרים say the order of intent matters
23. ChallengeWhy should the order make a difference?