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Pesachim 64a

פסחים ס״ד ע״א

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Topic

The איסור of offering a קרבן while owning חמץ (sources and contradictions), and the משנה's description of how the קרבן פסח was slaughtered in three groups.

Overview

The amud opens by settling two contradictions between ברייתות about offering a קרבן while owning חמץ. Both ברייתות follow רבי שמעון. The מליקה difference is about timing: the fourteenth of ניסן versus חול המועד. The הקטרה difference is a dispute among תנאים over whether burning is compared to slaughtering. The גמרא then explains the sources in the משנה: רבי יהודה reads זבחי as the תמיד, and רבי שמעון reads the doubled זבחי as "זבח" and "זבחיי" to split the fourteenth from the festival. Next it challenges רבי שמעון's ruling about a פסח slaughtered during the festival, since that ruling seems to imply that a פסח needs עקירה to become a שלמים. רבי חייא בר גמדא answers that the case is owners who were deferred to פסח שני. A new משנה then describes the slaughter of the פסח in three groups: the trumpet blasts, the rows of כהנים passing the blood, the saying of הלל, what changes on שבת, and how the animals were hung and skinned. It ends as רבי אליעזר begins a statement that continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

קַשְׁיָא מְלִיקָה אַמְּלִיקָה,

There is a contradiction: pinching against pinching,

קַשְׁיָא הַקְטָרָה אַהַקְטָרָה!

there is a contradiction: burning against burning!

וּלְטַעְמָיךְ, תִּיקְשֵׁי לָךְ הִיא גּוּפָא.

And according to your reasoning, ask about the ברייתא itself.

דְּקָתָנֵי: לֹא אָמְרוּ אֶלָּא בְּפֶסַח בִּלְבַד,

For it teaches: They said this only about the Paschal lamb,

The steps (26)

  1. ChallengeTwo contradictions between the ברייתות
  2. RejectionThe second ברייתא contradicts itself if read as one case
  3. Resolutionמליקה: the fourteenth of ניסן versus חול המועד
  4. Resolutionהקטרה: a dispute among תנאים
  5. QuestionWhat is the source for רבי יהודה's view about the תמיד?
  6. Response"My sacrifice" means the offering set aside for ה׳: the תמיד
  7. QuestionWhat is the source for רבי שמעון's view?
  8. Responseזבחי is written twice, so read it as "זבח" and "זבחיי"
  9. QuestionWhy did the Torah split the words instead of just writing "My sacrifices"?
  10. ResponseWhen the פסח is offered, only the פסח counts; when it is not, all sacrifices count
  11. StatementReading closely into the ruling about a פסח slaughtered during the festival
  12. ChallengeWhy should an unspecified פסח not count as a שלמים?
  13. ChallengeSo a פסח during the year would need active uprooting
  14. ResolutionThe case is owners who were impure and pushed off to פסח שני
  15. StatementNew משנה: the פסח is slaughtered in three groups
  16. StatementThe first group enters and the trumpets sound
  17. Statementכהנים stand in rows with silver and gold bowls
  18. StatementThe bowls had no flat bases
  19. StatementThe blood is passed down a line of כהנים to the altar
  20. StatementThe second and third groups follow the same order
  21. StatementThey said הלל while slaughtering, repeating if needed
  22. Statementרבי יהודה: the third group never reached אהבתי
  23. StatementOn שבת it is the same, but the floor is washed
  24. Statementרבי יהודה: a cup of the mixed blood was thrown on the מזבח
  25. StatementHow the animals were hung and skinned
  26. Statementרבי אליעזר begins a view about the fourteenth on שבת