Pesachim 71a

פסחים ע״א ע״א

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Topic

Whether שלמים slaughtered on ערב יום טוב count for שמחה (עולא vs. רבין), and רב כהנא's source for when the אימורים of the חגיגה become פסול

Overview

This amud opens at the end of עולא's ruling. שלמים slaughtered on ערב יום טוב do not count for שמחה, because they were not slaughtered at a time of rejoicing. They also do not count for חגיגה, because an obligation must come from חולין. A proof for עולא from a ברייתא about the first and last nights of the festival is rejected, because the ברייתא gives its own reason: only a night with days of rejoicing before it is included. רב יוסף and רבא challenge עולא. The answers are that the חגיגה of the fourteenth was really slaughtered on the fifteenth, and that on a שבת יום טוב one rejoices with clean clothes and old wine. רבין then reports a different version in the name of רבי אלעזר: such שלמים do count for שמחה, and the same ברייתא is no proof against him. Next, רב כהנא learns from the word ״ראשית״ that the אימורים of the חגיגה of the fifteenth must be offered before the first morning. רב יוסף, אביי and רבא debate whether that extra word is really needed. The amud ends as the גמרא begins quoting a ברייתא about meat, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (22)

1. Statementעולא's reason why the offering does not count for rejoicing
2. Statementעולא's reason why the offering does not count for the festival offering
3. ProofA proposed proof from a teaching about the last night of the festival
4. ProofHow the teaching would prove עולא right
5. RejectionThe proof is rejected: the teaching gives its own reason
6. Challengeרב יוסף challenges עולא from the festival offering of the fourteenth
7. ResolutionThe animal was slaughtered later, on the festival
8. Proofרב אשי shows this reading is reasonable, based on בן תימא
9. Challengeרבא challenges עולא from eight days of rejoicing
10. ResolutionOne rejoices with the festival goats
11. Rejectionרבא gives two reasons the goats do not work
12. ResolutionRejoicing with clean clothes and old wine
13. Statementרבין's version: offerings slaughtered before the festival count for rejoicing but not for the festival offering
14. ChallengeA ברייתא excludes the first night of the festival from rejoicing
15. ChallengeThe suggested reason: there is nothing to rejoice with on the first night
16. ResolutionA different reason: the first night has no rejoicing before it
17. StatementSource that the altar parts of the fifteenth's festival offering are disqualified overnight
18. Challengeרב יוסף questions why the word 'first' is needed
19. Resolutionאביי shows such a case exists: the קרבן פסח
20. Challengeרבא restates what truly bothered רב יוסף
21. QuestionThe גמרא asks for the source רבא mentioned
22. ResponseThe גמרא begins quoting the ברייתא on the meat