Pesachim 86b

פסחים פ״ו ע״ב

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Topic

Eating the קרבן פסח in one group and one place, a bride turning her face, guest etiquette, and serving a group meal. The chapter כיצד צולין ends here.

Overview

This amud opens at the end of a ברייתא in which רבי יהודה and רבי שמעון read the פסוק "בְּבַיִת אֶחָד יֵאָכֵל" differently. The גמרא explains that רבי יהודה follows the written spelling (יש אם למסורת), so the eater must stay in one place. רבי שמעון follows the spoken reading (יש אם למקרא), so the פסח must stay within one חבורה. The גמרא applies this to a מחיצה put up or taken down during the meal. רב אשי tells רב כהנא that this should really be an open question, and it ends in a תיקו. Next the גמרא explains that the כלה in the משנה turns her face because she is embarrassed. Two stories follow about guest manners: רב הונא explains each of his unusual actions, and רבי ישמעאל ברבי יוסי explains why he drank his cup in one gulp. Finally רב הונא, רבה and רבינא discuss when a waiter must serve a group, the הלכה rejects רבינא's demand for extra pay, and the פרק כיצד צולין ends with a הדרן.

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The steps (29)

1. StatementOne Paschal lamb may not be split between two groups
2. QuestionWhat is the root of their disagreement?
3. ResponseWritten spelling versus spoken reading
4. StatementA partition goes up in the middle of the meal
5. StatementA partition comes down in the middle of the meal
6. Statementרב כהנא taught the partition rules as obvious
7. Challengeרב אשי says it should be an open question
8. ConclusionThe question is left unresolved
9. QuestionWhy does the bride turn her face?
10. ResponseBecause she is embarrassed
11. Statementרב הונא's unusual behavior as a guest
12. QuestionWhy call yourself רב הונא?
13. ResponseThat is simply my name
14. QuestionWhy sit right away?
15. ResponseDo whatever the host says
16. QuestionWhy did you take the cup the first time it was offered?
17. ResponseYou may decline a lesser person, but not a great one
18. QuestionWhy did you drink the cup in two sips?
19. ResponseOne sip is gluttony, two is proper, three is arrogance
20. QuestionWhy did you not turn your face away while drinking?
21. ResponseOnly a bride turns her face
22. StatementA guest takes the cup at once and drinks it in one gulp
23. ChallengeIsn't drinking in one gulp the act of a guzzler?
24. ResolutionThe rule doesn't apply to a small cup, sweet wine, and a big stomach
25. StatementA group starts with three and may leave one by one
26. StatementTwo conditions: a normal arrival time and a waiter who knew
27. StatementLate diners must pay the waiter extra
28. ConclusionThe הלכה does not follow רבינא
29. Conclusionהדרן: Closing the Chapter on Roasting the פסח