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Sanhedrin 27a

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Topic

Disqualifying witnesses: when an עד זומם loses his status, and whether a sinner who is not a money sinner can testify.

Overview

The amud opens with a dispute between אביי and רבא about when an עד זומם becomes disqualified. אביי says it is למפרע, from the moment he lied. רבא says it is only מכאן ולהבא, either because הזמה is a חידוש or, in another version, to protect buyers. The הלכה follows אביי, one of the six cases of יע"ל קג"ם. Next, אביי and רבא argue about a person who eats non-kosher meat להכעיס. אביי disqualifies him as a רשע, and רבא disqualifies only a רשע דחמס, a sinner involving money. A ברייתא seems to refute אביי, and the גמרא explains how each one reads רבי מאיר's ruling about an עד זומם. The גמרא still rules like אביי. It explains that the ברייתא follows רבי יוסי, while a סתם משנה follows רבי מאיר. To show where that סתם משנה comes from, the גמרא begins the story of בר חמא, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

עֵד זוֹמֵם,

A conspiring witness:

אַבָּיֵי אָמַר: לְמַפְרֵעַ הוּא נִפְסָל;

Abaye says: he is disqualified retroactively;

וְרָבָא אָמַר: מִיכָּן וּלְהַבָּא הוּא נִפְסָל.

and Rava says: he is disqualified from now and onward.

אַבָּיֵי אָמַר: לְמַפְרֵעַ הוּא נִפְסָל,

Abaye says: he is disqualified retroactively,

The steps (31)

  1. StatementThe dispute: disqualified going backward or only from now on?
  2. Proofאביי's reason: he became wicked when he testified
  3. Statementרבא's reason: the law of a conspiring witness is a novelty
  4. StatementAnother version: רבא really agrees with אביי
  5. QuestionSo why does רבא say 'from now on'?
  6. ResponseTo protect buyers from losing money
  7. QuestionWhat is the practical difference between the two versions of רבא?
  8. ResponseTwo cases where the two versions of רבא differ
  9. Statementרב פפי ruled in practice like רבא
  10. Statementמר בר רב אשי rules like אביי
  11. ConclusionThe הלכה follows אביי in the six cases of יע"ל קג"ם
  12. StatementA מומר who eats נבילות out of appetite is disqualified by all
  13. StatementEating non-kosher meat out of spite: a dispute
  14. StatementThe reasons behind each opinion
  15. ChallengeA ברייתא seems to disqualify even non-money oath breakers
  16. ResolutionThe ברייתא means only oaths about money
  17. ChallengeA ברייתא says the disqualified רשע is a money sinner
  18. Conclusionאביי is refuted
  19. StatementA מחלוקת תנאים about an עד זומם
  20. QuestionSuggesting אביי follows רבי מאיר and רבא follows רבי יוסי
  21. RejectionNo, the argument is only about רבי מאיר's view
  22. ResolutionHow אביי and רבא each read רבי מאיר
  23. ConclusionThe הלכה follows אביי
  24. ChallengeBut אביי was refuted
  25. ResolutionThat ברייתא follows רבי יוסי
  26. ChallengeBut the halacha follows רבי יוסי over רבי מאיר
  27. ResolutionAn unattributed משנה follows רבי מאיר
  28. QuestionWhere is that unattributed משנה?
  29. Responseבר חמא kills a person and the ריש גלותא orders an investigation
  30. StatementTwo witnesses testify that he certainly killed
  31. Statementבר חמא brings witnesses claiming one witness is a thief