Sanhedrin 27b
סנהדרין כ״ז ע״ב
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Topic
Whether a money-sinner may testify in capital cases (רבי מאיר vs. רבי יוסי, settled by a סתם משנה), the list of relatives disqualified from testifying, and the Torah source for that rule.
Overview
The amud opens with the end of בר חמא's trial. The witnesses against him were said to have stolen, which is a money-type sin. רב אבא בר יעקב objects that disqualifying them works only according to רבי מאיר, while the הלכה usually follows רבי יוסי. רבי יוסי says someone disqualified in money matters can still testify in capital cases. רב פפי answers that an unnamed משנה follows רבי מאיר here. After rejecting one possible source, the גמרא proves this from the משנה listing dice players, lenders on interest and others as unfit wherever a woman is unfit. בר חמא is freed and thanks רב פפי. A new משנה then lists the relatives who cannot testify or judge, gives רבי יוסי's earlier version, and discusses former relatives and רבי יהודה's view on friends and enemies. The גמרא learns the relatives rule from 'לא יומתו אבות על בנים', meaning not through each other's testimony. It then explains that children are punished for their parents' sins only when they continue them, and that ערבות applies when people could have protested and did not.
Opening lines
קַתָּא דְבוּרְטְיָא.
The handle of a spear.
אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מַאי דַּעְתָּיךְ?
He said to him: What is your thinking?
כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר?
Like Rabbi Meir?
רַבִּי מֵאִיר וְרַבִּי יוֹסֵי –
Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Yosei:
The steps (25)
- StatementThe end of the testimony: a spear handle
- ChallengeDo you hold like רבי מאיר? The הלכה follows רבי יוסי
- Resolutionרב פפי: a סתם משנה follows רבי מאיר here
- QuestionWhich משנה follows רבי מאיר?
- ProofTrying out a source: 'Anyone fit for capital cases is fit for money cases'
- RejectionMaybe that משנה is about family background, not sin
- ProofThe second half of that משנה shows it is about lineage
- ResponseA new source: the list of people unfit to testify
- ProofThis משנה can only be רבי מאיר
- Conclusionבר חמא thanks רב פפי
- StatementThe list of relatives who cannot testify or judge
- Statementרבי יוסי: the earlier version of the list
- StatementSomeone who is no longer related may testify
- Statementרבי יהודה: children keep the relationship alive
- StatementA friend and an enemy are also disqualified
- RejectionThe חכמים reject the friend and enemy rule
- QuestionWhere do we learn that relatives cannot testify?
- ResponseThe answer begins with a פסוק about fathers and sons
- QuestionThe plain meaning of the פסוק is already taught elsewhere
- ResponseThe פסוק means relatives cannot testify against each other
- ChallengeBut the Torah says children are punished for fathers' sins
- ResolutionChildren are punished only when they continue their parents' ways
- ProofA ברייתא supports the answer
- ChallengeBut all Jews are responsible for one another
- ResolutionResponsibility comes from failing to protest