Sanhedrin 70b

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Topic

From the עץ הדעת and בת שבע's rebuke of שלמה to the meals that do not make a בן סורר ומורה liable

Overview

This amud opens by finishing a מחלוקת about which plant the עץ הדעת was: a grapevine, wheat, or a fig, with a reason for each view. It then explains a פסוק in משלי as בת שבע rebuking her son שלמה for drinking too much, phrase by phrase. רבי יצחק shows from another פסוק that שלמה later admitted she was right. The גמרא then goes back to the משנה about the בן סורר ומורה and works through its list of meals that do not make the son liable. These are eating with a מצוה group, at the עיבור החודש gathering, eating מעשר שני in ירושלים, eating forbidden meats, and eating tied to a מצוה or an עבירה. Along the way, רבי אבהו says liability needs a group made up entirely of idlers, and רבא says bird meat alone does not count. A פסוק teaches that the law is about disobeying parents, not God. The amud ends by explaining that 'any food' and 'any drink' include pressed figs, honey and milk, and starts a ברייתא about a כהן who ate them, whose ruling continues on the next amud.

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The steps (32)

1. StatementWine brings wailing: the reason for the grapevine view
2. StatementThe tree was wheat
3. StatementThe tree was a fig
4. Statementבת שבע ties her son to a pillar
5. Statement'My son': people will blame your mother
6. Statement'Son of my womb': I worked to give you strength
7. Statement'Son of my vows': I prayed for a son of תורה and prophecy
8. StatementKings should not drink and forget God
9. StatementAnother reading: princes come to his door
10. Proofשלמה admitted his mother was right
11. StatementMore foolish than נח and אדם הראשון
12. StatementBack to the משנה: eating with a מצוה group
13. StatementLiable only with a group of idlers
14. ChallengeDoesn't the משנה suggest otherwise?
15. ResolutionEven idlers at a מצוה gathering do not pull him down
16. StatementQuoting the משנה: Eating at the Month-Extension Meal
17. ChallengeWere Meat and Wine Even Brought There?
18. ResolutionEven If He Brought Meat on His Own, the מצוה Protects Him
19. StatementThe Rules for Going Up to Extend the Month
20. ChallengeA Contradiction: Night or Day?
21. ResolutionGo Up Early and Leave Early
22. StatementEating Second Tithe in Jerusalem
23. StatementQuoting the משנה: Forbidden Meats
24. Statementרבא: Fowl Meat Does Not Count
25. ChallengeThe משנה seems to say kosher meat, including bird meat, does make him liable
26. ResolutionBird meat only helps complete the amount
27. StatementEating connected to a מצוה or to an עבירה
28. QuestionWhy does a מצוה or an עבירה exempt him?
29. ResponseThe פסוק: 'he does not listen to our voice'
30. StatementThe משנה: any food but not meat, any drink but not wine
31. StatementWhat 'any food' and 'any drink' come to include
32. ProofA ברייתא about a כהן who ate figs or drank honey or milk and entered the מקדש