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Sanhedrin 87b

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Topic

Examples of real disputes for each phrase of the זקן ממרא פסוק: דין, דם, דין לדין, and נגע

Overview

The גמרא is going word by word through the פסוק about the זקן ממרא, 'כי יפלא ממך דבר למשפט, בין דם לדם, בין דין לדין, בין נגע לנגע'. For each phrase it gives a real dispute that could come before the בית דין הגדול. For 'למשפט', which means a דין, the example is the law of בתו מאנוסתו, learned through two גזירה שוה derivations, 'הנה' and 'זמה'. 'בין דם לדם' covers three kinds of blood. For נדה, the dispute is עקביא בן מהללאל against the חכמים about green blood. For לידה, it is רב against לוי on whether there is one source or two. For זיבה, it is רבי אליעזר against רבי יהושע about a woman who had relief from labor before giving birth. 'בין דין לדין' covers money cases (can two judges rule), capital cases (does 'a life for a life' mean money), and lashes (three judges or twenty-three). 'בין נגע לנגע' covers נגעים of a person, of houses, and of garments, with a dispute for each. The dispute about garments, between רבי יונתן בן אבטולמוס and the רבנן, continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

דִּין בִּתּוֹ מֵאֲנוּסָתוֹ.

The law of his daughter from the woman he raped.

דְּאָמַר רָבָא:

As רבא said:

אֲמַר לִי רַב יִצְחָק בַּר אֲבוּדִימִי,

רב יצחק בר אבודימי said to me,

אָתְיָא ״הֵנָּה״ ״הֵנָּה״,

it is learned from 'הנה' and 'הנה',

The steps (23)

  1. StatementThe example of 'דין' (for 'למשפט'): a man's daughter from a woman he raped
  2. ProofWhere the law of the rape-born daughter comes from
  3. Statement'Between blood and blood' means three kinds of blood
  4. ProofThe example for menstrual blood: the dispute about green blood
  5. ProofExample for דם לידה: רב says the blood after birth comes from one source
  6. Proofלוי says the blood after birth comes from two separate sources
  7. ProofExample for דם זיבה: רבי אליעזר's view in the משנה
  8. Proofרבי יהושע requires a night and a day of relief from pain
  9. StatementDefining 'between judgment and judgment'
  10. ProofMoney cases: שמואל on a court of two judges
  11. Proofרבי אבהו: a ruling by two judges does not count
  12. ProofCapital cases: רבי says 'a life for a life' means money
  13. ProofHow רבי learns that it means money
  14. ProofCases of lashes: the רבנן say three judges
  15. Proofרבי ישמעאל: lashes need twenty-three judges
  16. StatementDefining 'between mark and mark' as three kinds of נגעים
  17. ProofMarks of a person: the doubtful case of בהרת and white hair
  18. QuestionWhat does 'כהה' mean?
  19. Responseרבא: 'כהה' means the person is טהור
  20. ProofMarks of houses: רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון requires a corner
  21. QuestionWhy does רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון require a corner?
  22. ResponseOne 'wall' that is like 'walls' is a corner
  23. ProofThe example for marks on garments: רבי יונתן בן אבטולמוס and the רבנן