Sanhedrin 88a
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Sanhedrin 88a: The disputes behind the משנה's categories for a זקן ממרא, and when he is executed (tradition against reasoning: רב כהנא and רבי אלעזר)
Overview
The גמרא goes through the words of the משנה about a זקן ממרא, an elder who rules against the בית דין הגדול. For each word it shows a real מחלוקת he could rule on. It finishes the נגעים example: רבי יונתן בן אבטולמוס learns from a גזירה שוה that a garment fully covered by a נגע is טהור. 'דברי' means ערכין, חרמים and הקדשות, each tied to a known dispute. 'ריבות' means סוטה, עגלה ערופה and טהרת מצורע, and 'בשעריך' means לקט, שכחה and פיאה, and each of these is also tied to a known dispute. Then the גמרא turns to the three courts. רב כהנא says the זקן is killed only when he relies on his own reasoning against the court's tradition, and he proves it from עקביא בן מהללאל. רבי אלעזר says that even a זקן with a tradition is killed, to keep disputes from spreading. He explains that עקביא was spared because he never gave a practical ruling. A proof from the משנה's wording is pushed aside, and a new proof from רבי יאשיה's three teachings begins and continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
לִפְרִיחָה בִּבְגָדִים, שֶׁהִיא טְהוֹרָה?
for a spreading in garments, that it is pure?
נֶאֶמְרָה קָרַחַת וְגַבַּחַת בָּאָדָם,
'Karachat' and 'gabachat' are stated regarding a person,
וְנֶאֶמְרָה קָרַחַת וְגַבַּחַת בִּבְגָדִים.
and 'karachat' and 'gabachat' are stated regarding garments.
מָה לְהַלָּן – פָּרַח בְּכוּלּוֹ טָהוֹר,
Just as there, if it spread over all of him, he is pure,
The steps (27)
- QuestionWhere do we learn that a garment fully covered by a נגע is pure?
- ResponseLearning garments from people through matching words
- StatementWhat the word 'דברי' in the משנה refers to
- StatementThe ערכין dispute: valuing a baby under one month
- StatementThe חרמים dispute: where unspecified חרמים go
- StatementThe Sages say an unspecified חרם goes to the כהן
- ChallengeThen what does 'most holy to ה׳' teach?
- ResolutionIt teaches that חרם can apply to any קרבן
- StatementThe הקדשות case: how many people are needed to redeem הקדש
- StatementWhat 'ריבות' means: three cases
- StatementThe סוטה case: רבי אליעזר's view
- StatementThe סוטה case: רבי יהושע's view
- StatementThe dispute about measuring for the heifer
- StatementThe dispute about a leper missing a body part
- StatementExplaining 'in your gates': gleanings and forgotten sheaves
- Statementבית שמאי give three to the poor
- StatementWhich dispute about פיאה the משנה means
- Statementרבי ישמעאל: פיאה even from the dough
- StatementBoth sides quote tradition: not killed
- StatementReasoning against reasoning, or tradition against reasoning: not killed
- StatementThe only case he is killed: his reasoning against their tradition
- ProofProof from עקביא בן מהללאל
- Statementרבי אלעזר: Even a זקן With a Tradition Is Killed
- ResolutionWhy עקביא בן מהללאל Was Not Killed
- ProofTrying to Prove רבי אלעזר From the משנה's Words
- RejectionNo, the משנה Means the זקן Uses Reasoning
- Proofרבי יאשיה's Three Teachings From זעירא