Shabbos 105b
שבת ק״ה ע״ב
Shabbat 105b
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Topic
Tearing on שבת in anger or over the dead (מקלקל vs. מתקן), and the importance of mourning a חכם or אדם כשר
Overview
This עמוד opens with the last line of the previous סוגיא, then quotes a new משנה. The משנה says that tearing in anger or over one's dead is פטור, because every מקלקל is פטור, but damaging in order to fix is judged like fixing. It also gives the minimum שיעורים for several textile labors. The גמרא sets a ברייתא that calls such tearing חייב against the משנה. For tearing over the dead, it narrows the משנה's case step by step. The case becomes a relative one need not mourn, who is not a חכם or an אדם כשר, and whose death one did not witness. For tearing in anger, the משנה follows רבי שמעון and the ברייתא follows רבי יהודה on מלאכה שאינה צריכה לגופה. רבי אבין explains that calming one's anger makes the act constructive. The case is then limited to a controlled show of anger meant to discipline one's household, since real rage is compared to עבודה זרה. The עמוד ends with teachings on the reward for crying over an אדם כשר and the punishment for neglecting a חכם's הספד. A new statement of רבי יוחנן about a brother who died begins and continues on the next עמוד.
Opening lines
דְּעַבְדַהּ כִּי כִיסְתָּא.
Where it became like a pouch.
מַתְנִי׳ הַקּוֹרֵעַ בַּחֲמָתוֹ
MISHNA: One who tears in his anger
וְעַל מֵתוֹ,
or over his dead,
וְכׇל הַמְקַלְקְלִין — פְּטוּרִין.
and all who act destructively are exempt.
The steps (33)
- ResolutionFinishing the previous discussion: a pouch-like bulge
- StatementThe משנה: destructive acts are exempt, but damaging in order to fix is not
- StatementThe משנה: minimum amounts for whitening, combing, dyeing, spinning and weaving
- ChallengeA ברייתא says tearing over the dead makes one liable
- ResolutionAnswer: one's own dead versus someone else's dead
- ChallengeBut the משנה says "his dead"
- ResolutionHis own dead, but a relative he does not have to mourn
- ChallengeBut if the dead person is a חכם, everyone must tear
- ChallengeCan everyone really be his relative?
- ResolutionCorrected reading: everyone is like his relatives
- ResolutionThe משנה is about someone who is not a חכם
- ChallengeTearing over an upright person is an obligation
- ChallengeDo children die as a pledge?
- ResolutionCorrected reading: because he did not mourn
- ResolutionThe משנה speaks of someone not upright
- ChallengePresent at the moment of death requires tearing
- ResolutionThe משנה speaks of someone not present at death
- ChallengeThe anger contradiction still stands
- ResolutionA dispute between רבי יהודה and רבי שמעון
- ChallengeDoes רבי יהודה say this even for a destructive act?
- ResolutionTearing in anger calms him, so it is constructive
- ChallengeIs tearing in anger even permitted?
- ProofThe verse behind the ברייתא: the strange god inside you
- ResolutionTearing done deliberately to make the household afraid
- ProofStories of sages who staged small acts of anger
- StatementGod counts and stores tears shed for a righteous person
- StatementBeing lazy in eulogizing a sage deserves death
- StatementNeglecting a sage's eulogy shortens one's life
- ChallengeThe elders who neglected יהושע still lived long
- ResolutionThey lengthened days, not years
- ChallengeDoes the blessing of long life also mean only days?
- ResolutionA blessing is read generously
- StatementA new teaching begins about a brother who died