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Shabbos 10b

שבת י׳ ע״ב

Shabbat 10b

Learn Shabbos 10b step by step: Aramaic beside English, every question, answer and proof colour-coded.

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Topic

No 'שלום' in the bathhouse, telling someone about a gift (the gift of שבת), and more teachings of רב through רבא בר מחסיא

Overview

This amud opens by finishing a point from the previous page: a בית הכסא is unfit for prayer as soon as it is designated, because it is disgusting. The גמרא then rules that one may not greet with 'שלום' in a bathhouse, because שלום is an actual Name of ה׳. 'Faithful' (הימנותא), by contrast, only describes ה׳, so רב permits saying it in a bathroom. Through the same chain of teachers (רבא בר מחסיא in the name of רב חמא בר גוריא in the name of רב), the גמרא brings רב's rule that a giver must let the receiver know. This is learned from ה׳ telling משה about the gift of שבת, and רבן שמעון בן גמליאל applies it to giving bread to a child. The גמרא explains that telling is needed only when the gift would otherwise stay hidden, and the reward of שבת is exactly that kind of hidden gift. A story follows in which רב חסדא gives his priestly gifts to רבא בר מחסיא in exchange for רב's teachings. The amud ends with more teachings from the same chain: never favor one child over the others, as יוסף's coat shows, and prefer to live in a recently settled city, which רבי אבין derives from צוער. His proof continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

שָׁאנֵי בֵּית הַכִּסֵּא

A bathroom is different

דִּמְאִיס.

because it is disgusting.

אֵין שָׁם שְׁאֵילַת שָׁלוֹם.

There is no greeting of 'Shalom' there.

מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ לְרַב הַמְנוּנָא

This supports Rav Hamnuna

The steps (28)

  1. ResolutionThe bathroom is different because it is disgusting
  2. StatementNo greetings in the bathhouse
  3. ProofThis supports רב המנונא: שלום is a Name of ה׳
  4. ChallengeThen 'faithful' should also be forbidden in a bathroom
  5. Challengeרב explicitly permits saying 'faithfulness' in a bathroom
  6. Resolutionשלום is an actual Name; 'faithful' only describes ה׳
  7. StatementOne who gives a gift must let the receiver know
  8. ProofA ברייתא: שבת is ה׳'s hidden gift
  9. StatementGiving bread to a child: let the mother know
  10. QuestionHow should he let the mother know?
  11. Responseאביי: put oil or eye-paint on the child
  12. QuestionWhat about today, when we worry about witchcraft?
  13. Responseרב פפא: smear him with the same food
  14. ChallengeChallenge: A giver does not need to tell
  15. ResolutionAnswer: It depends whether the gift will become known
  16. ChallengeChallenge: שבת would have become known anyway
  17. ResolutionAnswer: The reward of שבת is hidden
  18. Statementרב חסדא's offer for a new teaching of רב
  19. Statementרבא בר מחסיא brings רב's teaching and wins the gift
  20. QuestionAre רב's teachings so dear to you?
  21. Responseרב חסדא answers: Yes
  22. Statementרב's saying: Fine wool is precious to those who wear it
  23. Conclusionרב חסדא loves the second teaching even more
  24. StatementNever favor one child over the others
  25. StatementLive in a recently settled city
  26. QuestionWhat does 'close' mean in the verse?
  27. ResponseIt means recently settled, so its sins are few
  28. Proofרבי אבין's proof from the word 'נא'