Shabbos 142a

שבת קמ״ב ע״א

Shabbat 142a

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Topic

מוקצה cases from the משנה: a child holding a stone, a basket with a stone, moving impure תרומה (לצורך גופו vs. לצורך מקומו), and רבי יהודה's ruling on lifting nullified תרומה

Overview

The amud opens by explaining why a child holding a stone may be lifted but not a child holding a דינר: a father would pick up a fallen coin. A ברייתא then supports רבא: clothes that are worn count as part of the person, but clothes that are only carried are a load. Next, the גמרא asks why a basket with a stone inside is not a בסיס לדבר האסור. It answers step by step: the basket is full of fruit, the fruit would be ruined if dumped, and the stone plugs a hole in the basket. Then רב חסדא limits moving impure תרומה with pure תרומה to when the pure is underneath. A ברייתא seems to refute him, but he answers that the משנה deals with needing the fruit itself (לצורך גופו) and the ברייתא with needing the spot (לצורך מקומו). רבא supports this reading from the coins-on-a-cushion clause. Finally, the גמרא asks why רבי יהודה lets one lift out nullified תרומה on שבת without counting it as fixing the food. It tries linking him to רבי אליעזר and then to רבי שמעון, rejects both, and settles on רבי שמעון בן אלעזר. It then asks whether רבי יהודה really holds that view, a question that continues on the next amud.

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The steps (26)

1. ChallengeWhy only a stone? A coin should be the same
2. ResolutionA father would pick up a fallen coin but not a stone
3. ProofA ברייתא supporting רבא: clothes carried versus clothes worn
4. ProofCarrying a person who is dressed versus a person holding his clothes
5. ChallengeWhy isn't the basket a base for the stone?
6. ResolutionThe basket is full of fruit
7. ChallengeWhy not dump everything and carry the fruit by hand?
8. ResolutionThe fruit would get dirty and ruined
9. ChallengeWhy not shake the stone out?
10. ResolutionThe stone plugs a hole in the basket
11. Statementרב חסדא limits the תרומה case
12. ChallengeWhy not dump the impure fruit?
13. ResolutionThe fruit would get dirty
14. ChallengeA ברייתא permits either order
15. ChallengeThe ברייתא seems to refute רב חסדא
16. Resolutionרב חסדא answers by splitting the cases: the fruit itself versus the space
17. QuestionWhat forced רב חסדא to read the משנה this way?
18. Responseרבא proves the reading from the coins-on-a-cushion case
19. ChallengeWhy may one lift out the nullified תרומה on שבת?
20. Resolutionרבי יהודה follows רבי אליעזר: the תרומה stays as it is
21. ProofThe משנה showing רבי אליעזר's view
22. Rejectionרבי אליעזר was only strict, not lenient
23. ResolutionA new source: רבי יהודה follows רבי שמעון
24. Rejectionרבי שמעון's reason may be different
25. ResolutionA third source: רבי שמעון בן אלעזר
26. ChallengeDoes רבי יהודה really agree with רבי שמעון בן אלעזר?