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Shabbos 35a

שבת ל״ה ע״א

Shabbat 35a

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Topic

How long בין השמשות lasts and how to judge it, the wicker-basket size dispute, and how the twilight opinions apply to כהנים' immersion and to שבת versus תרומה

Overview

This amud finishes the מחלוקת between רבה and רב יוסף about how long בין השמשות lasts: three-quarters of a מיל versus two-thirds, a gap of one-twelfth of a מיל. With a large wicker basket (חַלְּתָא), the two argue the other way around. There רב יוסף allows the bigger size, and אביי reports that in a real case רבה forbade even two כור, following a משנה that treats such huge containers as non-vessels. A story about אביי and רבא teaches that to judge twilight you watch the western sky, the side that makes the east turn red. רבי חנינא gives a way to feel רבי נחמיה's half-מיל measure at הר הכרמל, which leads to a side-teaching about בארה של מרים and a moving spring. שמואל then rules that כהנים may immerse during רבי יהודה's twilight, and the גמרא explains that this follows רבי יוסי, whose short twilight comes only after רבי יהודה's ends. Finally, רבי יוחנן rules like רבי יהודה for שבת and like רבי יוסי for תרומה. The גמרא challenges the תרומה half: if it is about immersion, that time is still a doubt. The answer continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

תְּרֵי תִילְתֵי מִיל.

two-thirds of a mil.

מַאי בֵּינַיְיהוּ?

What is between them?

— אִיכָּא בֵּינַיְיהוּ פַּלְגָא דְּדַנְקָא.

There is between them half of a sixth.

וְחִילּוּפַהּ בְּחַלְּתָא.

And its reverse is with a wicker basket.

The steps (26)

  1. Statementרב יוסף: twilight lasts two-thirds of a מיל
  2. QuestionWhat is the actual difference between them?
  3. ResponseThe gap is half of a sixth
  4. StatementWith the wicker basket, their positions are reversed
  5. Statementרבה: a basket of two כור may be moved, but not three
  6. Statementרב יוסף: even three כור may be moved, but not four
  7. Statementאביי: in a real case, רבה forbade even two כור
  8. QuestionWhose view was רבה following?
  9. ResponseLike the משנה: huge containers are not vessels
  10. Statementאביי: the heap above the rim is one-third
  11. Challengeאביי asks רבא why he looks west
  12. ResolutionIt means the sky that makes the east red
  13. StatementAnother version: רבא corrects אביי
  14. ConclusionMnemonic: a window
  15. Statementרבי נחמיה's measure of twilight
  16. StatementA practical way to feel רבי נחמיה's measure
  17. StatementSeeing בארה של מרים from הר הכרמל
  18. StatementA moving spring is pure
  19. StatementPriests may immerse during רבי יהודה's twilight
  20. QuestionWhose view is this? Not רבי יהודה's own
  21. ResponseIt follows רבי יוסי
  22. ChallengeIsn't that obvious?
  23. Resolutionרבי יהודה's twilight ends before רבי יוסי's begins
  24. Statementרבי יוחנן splits the ruling between שבת and תרומה
  25. QuestionThe שבת ruling makes sense, but what does the תרומה ruling refer to?
  26. ChallengeIf it means immersion, that time is still a doubt