Shabbos 5b

שבת ה׳ ע״ב

Shabbat 5b

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Topic

When does an object count as 'resting' (הנחה) for the laws of carrying on שבת? רבא's explanations: the inclined wall, water on top of water, and the nut floating in a vessel.

Overview

This עמוד asks when an object counts as having 'come to rest' (הנחה) for the laws of carrying on שבת. First the גמרא recalls a משנה about a scroll that rolled off a roof. רבא explains that the scroll lies on a slanted wall (כותל משופע), so it counts as resting. That answer does not work for flowing water. So רבא explains that the water was scooped from a hole already full of water, because water on top of water counts as resting. A nut floating on water does not count as resting. רבא's question about a nut inside a floating vessel stays a doubt (תיקו). Oil floating on wine is tied to a dispute between רבי יוחנן בן נורי and the רבנן. Next, רבי יוחנן rules that a loaded person who wanders in and out is not liable until he stops, and אביי adds that the stop must be to rest. Finally, a ברייתא about carrying from a store to a plaza through a colonnade raises the question of liability through a middle domain, and רבי יוחנן's answer begins at the end of the עמוד and continues on the next one.

Opening lines

The steps (20)

1. StatementThe משנה of the scroll that rolled away
2. ChallengeBut the scroll never came to rest
3. Resolutionרבא: the scroll rests on a slanted wall
4. RejectionWater does not rest on a slanted wall
5. Resolutionרבא's new answer: scooped from a hole
6. ChallengeA hole is obvious
7. ResolutionThe new point: water on water counts as resting
8. Proofרבא is consistent: water on water vs. a nut on water
9. Questionרבא's question: a nut in a floating vessel
10. ConclusionThe question stays unresolved
11. StatementOil floating on wine depends on a dispute
12. ProofThe משנה about a טבול יום touching oil on wine
13. StatementWalking in and out all day while loaded is not liable until he stops
14. Statementאביי: only stopping to rest counts
15. ProofProof from the ברייתא about stopping within four אמות
16. ChallengeWhy did רבי יוחנן need to say this again?
17. ResolutionTwo students reported one teaching in two ways
18. StatementCarrying from a store to a plaza through a colonnade
19. Challengeבן עזאי makes sense, but where do we find the רבנן's kind of liability?
20. Resolutionרב ספרא opens the answer in the name of רבי יוחנן