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Shabbos 72a

שבת ע״ב ע״א

Shabbat 72a

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Topic

How many guilt-offerings (אשם ודאי) a man brings for relations with a שפחה חרופה several times, and whether a period of awareness between the acts splits them into separate obligations.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing עולא's ruling. A man who had relations with a שפחה חרופה five times brings only one אשם, even if he realized his sin between each act. רב המנונא objects with a man who sets aside an animal and then sins again. עולא answers that his rule never covered acts done after הפרשה. רב דימי then reports that according to the view that an אשם ודאי requires ידיעה בתחילה, the man brings an offering for each act. אביי challenges him, because רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש dispute this very question for a חטאת. רב דימי goes silent. אביי suggests he meant acts done after הפרשה, like רב המנונא, and רב דימי agrees. רבין then sums it all up in three cases: everyone agrees on one offering in עולא's case, everyone agrees on an offering for each act in רב המנונא's case, and the view requiring ידיעה falls into the dispute of רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש. The amud ends with איתמר, which opens a new dispute that continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

בָּעַל חָמֵשׁ בְּעִילוֹת בְּשִׁפְחָה חֲרוּפָה —

If he had relations five times with a designated maidservant —

אֵינוֹ חַיָּיב אֶלָּא אַחַת.

he is only obligated in one (offering).

מַתְקִיף לַהּ רַב הַמְנוּנָא:

Rav Hamnuna strongly objected to it:

אֶלָּא מֵעַתָּה בָּעַל וְחָזַר וּבָעַל

But if so, if he had relations and again had relations,

The steps (12)

  1. StatementFive acts with a שפחה חרופה require only one offering
  2. Challengeרב המנונא objects: what about sinning after setting aside the animal?
  3. Resolutionעולא: my rule never covered acts done after the animal was set aside
  4. Statementרב דימי's version: each act requires its own offering
  5. Challengeאביי: even for a חטאת this question is disputed
  6. Questionרב דימי is silent and אביי suggests what he meant
  7. Responseרב דימי confirms: yes
  8. Statementרבין's three-part summary
  9. StatementAgreed case one: only one offering, like עולא
  10. StatementAgreed case two: an offering for each act, like רב המנונא
  11. ConclusionThe disputed case: the רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש argument
  12. StatementIntroduction to a new dispute