Shabbos 7b

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Shabbat 7b

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Topic

שמואל's rule about כרמלית, רב's low house and אביי's pit, the dispute over חורי רשות הרבים, and רב חסדא's stick in a רשות היחיד

Overview

The גמרא first works out what שמואל meant by 'no domain above ten טפחים.' It cannot mean רשות הרבים, because that is already an explicit משנה. So it means כרמלית, which חז"ל gave one leniency from each side: it needs 4×4 like רשות היחיד, and it stops at ten like רשות הרבים. Next, with גופא, the גמרא returns to רב's ruling about a low house: one may carry anywhere on its roof, but only four אמות inside. אביי adds that digging a 4×4 pit that reaches ten makes the whole house private, because חורי רשות היחיד are like רשות היחיד. אביי and רבא then argue whether חורי רשות הרבים are like רשות הרבים. אביי defends his view against challenges from a corner next to רשות הרבים and from רבי יוחנן's sticky fig cake, and the גמרא proves that the משנה's wall has no hole. Finally, the גמרא turns to רב חסדא's ruling that a stick in a רשות היחיד counts at any height. It asks whether he follows רבי, who does not require a 4×4 resting place, and that question continues on the next amud.

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The steps (27)

1. ResolutionSuggesting שמואל meant the public domain
2. ChallengeThat would just repeat a משנה
3. ProofThe משנה about throwing at a wall
4. Conclusionשמואל meant כרמלית
5. Statementחז"ל gave כרמלית leniencies from both domains
6. StatementThe private-domain leniency: needs four handbreadths
7. StatementThe public-domain leniency: only up to ten handbreadths
8. Statementרב: a low house whose roof reaches ten
9. Statementאביי: digging a pit makes the whole house private
10. QuestionWhy does the whole house become private?
11. ResponseThe rest of the house is like holes of the private domain
12. ProofSource: the holes of a private domain are private
13. Statementאביי and רבא argue about holes of the public domain
14. Challengeרבא challenges אביי from a corner next to the public domain
15. ResolutionA corner is hard to use, but holes are easy to use
16. StatementA משנה about throwing onto a wall
17. QuestionBut the object never rested on the wall
18. Responseרבי יוחנן: the case is a sticky fig cake
19. ChallengeWhy not a stone that landed in a hole?
20. ResolutionFirst answer: a stone bounces back
21. ResolutionSecond answer: the wall has no hole
22. ProofProof from the first half of the משנה that the wall has no hole
23. ChallengeWhat if the holes are simply too small?
24. RejectionEven a tiny hole is a subject of dispute
25. ConclusionSo the משנה means a wall with no hole
26. Statementרב חסדא: a stick in a private domain counts at any height
27. ChallengeDoes רב חסדא follow רבי's view?