Succah 41a

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Sukkah 41a

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Topic

Whether שביעית holiness transfers by חילול or only by מקח (רב אשי's two versions), then רבן יוחנן בן זכאי's תקנות of זכר למקדש: לולב for seven days and the whole of יום הנף.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing the debate between רבי יוחנן and רבי אלעזר. The question is whether the קדושה of שביעית moves to a new item only by מקח (purchase), or also by חילול (redemption). רב אשי first says they argue only about פרי ראשון, the original fruit. רבינא disproves this from a ברייתא about a סלע of שביעית, where only a purchase works. So רב אשי flips his view: they argue only about פרי שני, and for the original fruit everyone requires מקח. A ברייתא that says 'שביעית' can be redeemed onto animals is read as דמי שביעית, the money of שביעית, just as 'מעשר' in the same ברייתא must mean מעשר money. Then a new משנה teaches two תקנות of רבן יוחנן בן זכאי after the חורבן: taking the לולב for seven days everywhere, and forbidding חדש for all of יום הנף. The גמרא learns the idea of זכר למקדש from the פסוק 'ציון היא דורש אין לה'. It then explains the יום הנף rule as a safeguard for when the מקדש is rebuilt. Finally, רב נחמן בר יצחק says the rule follows רבי יהודה, who holds that the prohibition is from the Torah; his proof verse continues on the next amud.

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The steps (16)

1. StatementThe animal dispute is only about males; with females everyone agrees
2. Statementרב אשי's first proposal: the dispute is only about the original fruit
3. ResolutionWhy the ברייתא kept saying 'purchased'
4. Challengeרבינא objects from the case of the סלע of שביעית
5. Resolutionרב אשי reverses: the dispute is about the second fruit
6. Resolution'שביעית' in the ברייתא means דמי שביעית
7. ProofProof that 'Tithe' in the ברייתא Means Tithe Money
8. Statementמשנה: Taking the לולב Seven Days After the Destruction
9. Statementמשנה: The Whole Day of Waving Stays Forbidden
10. QuestionSource for Making a Remembrance of the Temple
11. Responseרבי יוחנן: 'No One Seeks Her' Means She Needs Seeking
12. QuestionWhy forbid new grain the whole day of waving?
13. ResponsePeople may get confused once the בית המקדש is rebuilt
14. ChallengeWhen would the rebuilding have to happen for this mistake to occur?
15. ResolutionThe case is a rebuilding at night or near sunset
16. Responseרב נחמן בר יצחק: the prohibition is from the Torah