Succah 42b

סוכה מ״ב ע״ב

Sukkah 42b

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Topic

The end of the ברייתא on a child's stages, the close of פרק לולב הגזול, and the opening משנה of פרק לולב וערבה on how many days each סוכות מצוה lasts and the לולב on שבת.

Overview

This amud finishes a ברייתא that lists the stages of a growing child, where each new ability brings a new law. A child who knows how to slaughter may have his שחיטה eaten, and רב הונא adds that a גדול must supervise. Once a child can eat a כזית of grain, one must keep four אמות from his waste before praying. רב חסדא adds that he must eat it within כדי אכילת פרס, and רב חייא בריה דרב ייבא says an adult's waste counts even without that condition. A child who can eat a כזית of roasted meat may be counted for the קרבן פסח, but רבי יהודה requires that he can also tell food from non-food. Then comes the הדרן for פרק לולב הגזול. A new פרק opens with a משנה listing how many days each סוכות מצוה lasts, and it explains when the לולב and ערבה are done six or seven days. It describes how the לולב was handled in the מקדש when the first day fell on שבת, and how בית דין moved the מצוה home because of the danger. The גמרא asks why the לולב does not always override שבת, and רבה begins to answer with a גזירה that continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (15)

1. StatementA child who knows how to slaughter
2. Statementרב הונא: an adult must supervise
3. StatementA child who can eat an olive-bulk of grain
4. Statementרב חסדא: within the time of eating a half-loaf
5. Statementרב חייא: an adult needs no time condition
6. StatementA child who can eat an olive-bulk of roasted meat
7. Statementרבי יהודה: the child must recognize food
8. Conclusionהדרן — Closing פרק לולב הגזול
9. StatementNew chapter opens: how many days each סוכות מצוה lasts
10. StatementWhen the לולב is taken all seven days
11. StatementWhen the ערבה ritual is done all seven days
12. StatementHow the לולב was handled in the בית המקדש when the first day fell on שבת
13. StatementThe crowd grabs for the לולבים, so בית דין moves the מצוה home
14. ChallengeWhy doesn't the לולב override שבת if taking it is only moving it?
15. Resolutionרבה: a rabbinic decree in case one carries the לולב to an expert