Taanis 13b

תענית י״ג ע״ב

Taanit 13b

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Topic

Washing rules for an אבל during שבעה, and where the fast-day prayer goes in the עמידה.

Overview

The amud continues the laws of an אבל washing during שבעה. In the first version, רבא allows a mourner to wash in cold water. A ברייתא about a בוגרת is read as a challenge to him, but the גמרא answers that the ברייתא is about eye makeup and hair dye. A story about רבי יוסי בר חנינא washing in cold water is offered as support for רבא. It is pushed away as a special case of mourning after mourning, where a ברייתא allows some easing and רב חסדא sets its limits. In a second version, רבא forbids cold water, and the same sources are discussed again from that side. The final הלכה is that the whole body may not be washed at all, while face, hands and feet may be washed in cold water, and anointing is allowed only to remove dirt. The גמרא then turns to where an individual who fasts adds the fast-day prayer, and רב יצחק and רב ששת place it inside שומע תפלה. A ברייתא about 'eighteen and nineteen' starts a debate over how many ברכות the שליח ציבור says on each stage of the public fasts. That debate continues on the next amud.

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The steps (30)

1. ProofA grown girl may not make herself unattractive while mourning her father
2. ChallengeThe ברייתא cannot be about hot water
3. ChallengeSo the ברייתא must be about cold water
4. RejectionNo, the ברייתא is about eye makeup and hair dye
5. ProofSupport from רבי יוסי בר חנינא washing in cold water
6. RejectionThat was a special case of mourning after mourning
7. ProofA ברייתא allows easing when mourning periods pile up
8. Statementרב חסדא sets the limits of the easing
9. StatementSecond version: רבא forbids even cold water
10. ChallengeWhy is cold water worse than meat and wine?
11. ResolutionMeat and wine calm his distress
12. ProofTrying to prove רבא from the ברייתא about the grown woman
13. RejectionNo, the ברייתא is about eye paint and hair dye
14. Statementרב חסדא: no laundry all שבעה
15. ConclusionThe final הלכה on washing and anointing
16. QuestionHow do we mention the fast in prayer?
17. ResponseSaid between גואל and רופא
18. ChallengeCan one person add a whole new blessing for himself?
19. ResolutionThe fast-day prayer goes inside שומע תפלה
20. ChallengeA ברייתא says one prays eighteen and the other nineteen
21. QuestionWho are the 'individual' and the 'community' in the ברייתא?
22. ProofSo an individual can set up his own ברכה
23. RejectionIt is the prayer leader, during the first three fasts
24. ChallengeA ברייתא says the first and middle fasts differ only about work
25. ResolutionThe ברייתא taught some differences and left some out
26. ChallengeTwo problems with saying the list is incomplete
27. ResolutionThe ברייתא only discusses prohibitions, not prayers
28. ResolutionOr: even the middle fasts have no twenty-four ברכות
29. ChallengeAnother ברייתא: the middle fasts equal the last seven
30. RejectionIs "the only difference" really meant exactly?