Temurah 24a

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Topic

Leftover חטאות that are left to die or to graze, and the ban on skinning holy animals from the feet

Overview

The amud opens with the last line of an earlier discussion about רבי אמי's teaching. Then רבי הושעיא rules that if someone sets aside two חטאות, one as a backup, he brings one and the other grazes. The גמרא asks whose view this follows, rules out the רבנן and רבי שמעון, and concludes it follows רבי, who says a leftover dies only when it replaced a lost animal. It defends this answer against a משנה of רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון and against the משנה about the יום כיפור goats. Next, a ברייתא about when a leftover חטאת dies is corrected with a קל וחומר: if the animal was lost at the time of כפרה, everyone agrees it dies. The גמרא then brings a ברייתא forbidding skinning from the feet for a בכור and for פסולי המוקדשין. רב חסדא attributes the first rule to בית שמאי and the second to רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון, and three reasons are given for the ban. The amud ends by closing the chapter ולד חטאת.

Opening lines

The steps (31)

1. ConclusionClosing line: what רבי אמי's teaching adds
2. StatementTwo sin offerings set aside as a backup
3. QuestionWhose opinion is this?
4. ChallengeIf it follows the רבנן, it is too obvious
5. ChallengeIf it follows רבי שמעון, the leftover should die
6. Resolutionרבי הושעיא follows רבי, who limits the rule to a lost animal
7. ChallengeQuoting the משנה about a blemished sin offering
8. ChallengeIf רבי אלעזר follows רבי, a backup would also die
9. RejectionMaybe רבי אלעזר follows his father, רבי שמעון
10. ChallengeQuoting the משנה about the communal goat
11. Challengeרב shows the leftover goat counts as a backup
12. Resolutionרב follows his own view that the first must be used
13. StatementA ברייתא on when רבי and רבנן say the leftover dies
14. ChallengeA קל וחומר shows the version of the ברייתא cannot be right
15. ResolutionThe corrected version of the ברייתא
16. StatementBack to the משנה: רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון's opinion
17. StatementNo skinning from the feet on יום טוב, or with a בכור or disqualified holy animals
18. QuestionThe holiday rule makes sense, but who holds the firstborn rule?
19. ResponseThe firstborn rule follows בית שמאי
20. QuestionWho holds the rule for disqualified sacrifices?
21. ResponseIt follows רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון, with a teaching about two sin offerings
22. ProofEven the cooking meat of the blemished animal must be burned
23. ChallengeWhy not attribute both rules to בית שמאי
24. Resolutionבית שמאי may only speak about a בכור, which is holy from birth
25. ChallengeWhy not attribute both rules to רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון
26. Resolutionרבי אלעזר's view may apply only to disqualified consecrated animals
27. ChallengeChallenge from the rule allowing sale in the butchers' market
28. ResolutionSaving the hide ruins the meat
29. ResolutionIn the West: it looks like working with holy animals
30. ResolutionA rabbinic decree so people won't raise whole flocks
31. ConclusionHadran — Closing the chapter ולד חטאת